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re: Why aren't "Big Name" defensive coordinators lobbying for this position

Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
59890 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:05 pm to
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calm down


I'm fine Choc.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:08 pm to
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There are two sides to this.

No there aren't. Just because a team scores a lot of points, doesn't mean said team will be ahead by a lot of points. A&M scores a lot and gives up a lot? Why? Because their defense is on the field a whole shitload. The defense will get tired when your favorite offense scores in a minute and a half.

Why do you think Baylor, Texas A&M, Auburn and Oregon all have shitty defenses?
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44166 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:09 pm to
How do you know they arent?

Chill
Posted by PoppaD
Texas
Member since Feb 2008
5249 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:10 pm to
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The word is that we're looking to give a 2 year deal to the prospective DC which is going to limit what we can get


That's unnerving if true. Alleva continues to screw over the football program.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:10 pm to
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Because you have to deal with Les Miles and the lack of offense. Pretty hard gig. Could hurt you for the next job you are looking for.
Because it obviously hurt our last two DCs so bad.

Oh, wait.
Posted by AngryBeavers
Member since Jun 2012
4554 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:11 pm to
Chavis waiting until after the bowl game to leave is what pisses me off the most. He has had this in works for a while and really screwed us out of guys like Muschamp for this job.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14762 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:14 pm to
My buddy in the coaching business, says he's heard NOTHING. As others have alluded in this thread, this process is being kept VERY quiet if even R.O. (my friend) has no speculation or scuttlebutt.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
78658 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:18 pm to
Well aren't you a tease.
Posted by mnevils
Member since Aug 2011
159 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:20 pm to
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And working with the LSU offense is easier on a DC than working with Sumlin's or Helfrich's.


How do you determine this?? 3 and out wears out a defense just as fast as scoring quickly.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:22 pm to
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3 and out wears out a defense just as fast as scoring quickly.


This is just a lazy tired played out way to describe the LSU offense.

As pedestrian as the LSU offense was in 2014, they were 9th in the nation and 2nd in the SEC in TOP.

So I guess the answer to your question of "And how do you determine this" is simple. I don't just ignorantly make statements without actually looking at real facts.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 3:26 pm
Posted by augrad00
Member since Nov 2010
1354 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:24 pm to
Ignore my team affiliation and let me chime in on the OP's concerns. The OP saw us get rid of our DC and before the ink was dry on the newspaper, everyone was hearing that Muschamp had interest in become our new DC. The OP is wondering why this isn't happening at LSU.

As for Baylor, Texas A&M, Auburn and Oregon having shitty defenses, it isn't because of their high scoring offenses. It's because these team don't get many 5-star players on defense, especially in the secondary. You can't stop teams if you don't have talent players on D or a coach that coach a 3-star DB to play like a 5-star.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:30 pm to
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Ignore my team affiliation and let me chime in on the OP's concerns.

I wasn't really addressing the OP. I was addressing one of our many rantards.

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The OP saw us get rid of our DC and before the ink was dry on the newspaper, everyone was hearing that Muschamp had interest in become our new DC. The OP is wondering why this isn't happening at LSU.

I get what he is saying, even though he didn't really convey that very well. His post insinuates he doesn't think any big time DCs are interested in the job at LSU. The guy I addressed says we will never get a big time DC because of the offense. That is a stupid statement.

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it isn't because of their high scoring offenses

Having the defense be on the field so much is a contributing factor to having a defense that ranks in the 80s. There is 0 denying that. A team like Oregon that has been in the consistent hunt for a national championship should be able to recruit defensive players. They have one of the best CBs in the country. Baylor has Oakman up front. A&M has Garrett up front. Having to be on the field that long is most CERTAINLY a reason these defenses struggle. Is it the sole reason? No. But it is a contributing factor and also supports my original comment that it is more difficult to have success as a DC at a school like Oregon, Baylor or A&M than it is at LSU.

There is really no arguing that.
This post was edited on 1/6/15 at 3:32 pm
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14762 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:34 pm to
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Well aren't you a tease.

Yeah, I know. I apologize for that, I normally HATE doing this, and don't usually have insider information or contacts in this type of thing.

For once, I do, and I got sort of "Billy BigBoots" about it. But since my friend knows or has heard nothing, it's kind of irrelevant anyway.

Sorry about that.
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:35 pm to
Maybe they are. Should they contact you first?
Posted by Tigersport2014
Member since Aug 2014
824 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:38 pm to
..looks like you already know - or have something in mind - to answer your question ... just sayin' ...
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14440 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Why aren't "Big Name" defensive coordinators lobbying for this positionmost big name guys aren't going to make a lateral move
I wonder how many of the "Big Name" coordinators are making 1 million plus?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36630 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:44 pm to
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just go ahead and say what we all know you are thinking

"nobody wants to work with Miles"
There is some truth to that. When Chavis first got here Les was on shakier ground and was willing to give up complete control of the defense. I get the impression that Les wants more control this time around which would keep many "big name" DC's away. Even if he is playing nice in interviews, Les being more established probably worries some candidates too.
Posted by joeytiger
Muh Mom's House
Member since Jul 2012
6037 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:48 pm to
Because Chavis leaving makes LSU "look" like an unstable situation, and the perception is that the head coach is on the hot seat. Maybe someone doesn't want to uproot their lives to come to Baton Rouge for a year or two. That's what I think, but it is unfortunate because whoever lands this job will have a stacked lineup on defense to make a name for themselves, if the defense can perform as well as they did at the end of the year.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69052 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 3:55 pm to
Fanatical fanbase
Posted by ThreauxDown11
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2013
1655 posts
Posted on 1/6/15 at 4:03 pm to
Like it hurt Chavis Idiot
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