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re: Why a 10 year contract?

Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:14 am to
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:14 am to
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So he’s worth top dollar and expected to go 6 wins, possibly last in the west. Which would be 2 years in a row?


His previous success suggest he is worth top dollar. Absolutely. How is Kelly responsible for 6 wins last year? What does that have to do with how much he's getting paid to coach this year? Do you realize the roster turnover LSU has had? Do you realize the culture issues that were created by the last coaching staff? This year was/is going to be a struggle, regardless of who is coaching. We are paying him to change the culture and fix the issues. That is not going to happen over night.

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I may be an Arkansas fan, but I’d never drop 10mil/10yrs on BK…


And that is exactly why...

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I know we will never have the success LSU has/will.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:15 am to
Yet you’re looking at -2 to Arkansas in football…

Yeah, sign me up for your advice …
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:15 am to
LSU doesn’t care to go bargain shopping for a head coach.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:17 am to
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You can just see it watching Aranda’s defense and Napier’s offense compared to Kelly’s offense


You are a moron. Let's ignore the coach who has put together the best winning percentage in all of CFB, mostly at a prestigous Notre Dame, and go after one coach who is just in his third year and another that has never coached beyond the Sun Belt because YOUR eyes tell you so.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:20 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:18 am to
BK, no need to get worked up here.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:19 am to
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I want what’s best for LSU too. Do you see BK at LSU in 10 yrs? I don’t, and that’s immediately why I think it’s silly


I see him here till he retires. Whenever that may be. What about Brian Kellys past suggest to you that he will be a failure?

Certainly you aren't ignoring 30 years worth of coaching and forming an entire opinion based on one game right?
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:19 am to
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Yet you’re looking at -2 to Arkansas in football


At minus 2. -2 what?
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:21 am
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17986 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:22 am to
To get a coach like Brian Kelly to leave a school like Notre Dame it has to be a massive deal. Lots of years and lots of money.

It really is that simple.

If you want to say you wouldn’t have given him that…well that wasn’t quite your question. I don’t think he leaves for a 5 year deal elsewhere.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:23 am
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:23 am to
I said 6. He would have been a fool not to come to LSU for 60 mil guaranteed after a natty winning coach.

Also nobody really knows what BK made at ND. It was always speculation. ND will never pay 10 mil for a coach and maybe that’s why BK left.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:25 am
Posted by LSUTigerfaninHtown
President of the OT as of 5/26/11
Member since Nov 2008
24252 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:28 am to
The length of the contract projects confidence and a sense of a clear direction well into the future. Brian Kelly’s agent pushed for it, as well, I imagine.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:29 am to
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I said 6. He would have been a fool not to come to LSU for 60 mil guaranteed after a natty winning coach


But in your OP you said he is a 10 mil coach, but you were questioning the 10 years. You've contradicted yourself ever since.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:31 am to
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Let's ignore the coach who has put together the best winning percentage in all of CFB, mostly at a prestigous Notre Dame


A traditional powerhouse at which he couldn’t win a Natty. Looking at their recruiting rankings he vastly oversold the whole “I couldn’t get my players” schtick.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:32 am to
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A traditional powerhouse at which he couldn’t win a Natty.


But neither of the coaches you are knighting for have won national titles either.

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Looking at their recruiting rankings he vastly oversold the whole “I couldn’t get my players” schtick


I know you are widely known here for being a complete idiot, but even you can't be so dumb as to think ND had the same caliber athletes that the SEC has.
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:34 am
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
37654 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:32 am to
Because that's probably what it took to get him here. He isn't getting fired so it's with giving it to him if that's what it took
This post was edited on 9/7/22 at 12:35 am
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
15555 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:33 am to
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But neither of the coaches you are knighting for have won national titles either.


At Baylor and ULL - and Aranda missed the CFP by one game last year.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
23510 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 12:36 am to
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At Baylor and ULL - and Aranda missed the CFP by one game last year


You can't use Brian Kelly has never won a NC as a reason to think he's the wrong hire and then turn around and say two coaches who have never even been in the playoffs are better. You are moving the bar all over the place to fit your narrative.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46696 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 2:16 am to
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So you think he's worth paying 10 mil a year, but shouldn't get longevity? That makes no sense

Sure it makes sense. But it doesn’t reflect the market, and he would not have left ND. If you want an established coach you have to both pay and accept all the risk.
Posted by jafari rastaman
Member since Nov 2015
2326 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 4:21 am to
In addition to enticing him to come, we also don’t want Alabama to poach him after we win his first national championship and Saban retires.
Posted by allsports34
Dallas Tx.
Member since Dec 2010
1279 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 4:44 am to
The happiest guy the Napier did not get the LSU job????

Billy Napier
Posted by BDoubleEZ
Burleson, TX
Member since Sep 2021
716 posts
Posted on 9/7/22 at 4:48 am to
So after reading a lot of retarded responses, the main reason the money and longevity had to be in that contract was because if it wasn't, we would've ended up with a sub par hire. Woodward knew he couldn't afford that with the direction the program was headed. He was trying to prevent LSU from becoming the Tennessee of the West. He also just fired a coach who won a championship 2 years ago. Any coach worth his salt would require guaranteed longevity. Sure he could've tried the Napier experiment but it would've been just that, an experiment. Woodward knew he couldn't afford a failed hire. Regardless of what we all saw Sunday night, Brian Kelly's hire made much more sense than Napier or Aranda. It's hard to believe that this has to be said but it was one game and the very first one at that. The success of Brian Kelly at LSU won't be determined by that one game or by most games this year. He's building a foundation. It doesn't happen overnight.
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