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re: Whoever decided "hey lets try to job BK out of his contract" needs to be sent to pasture
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:45 pm to Salviati
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:45 pm to Salviati
quote:And oh, this also is false.
No. What's going on right now is 100% the fault of someone at LSU, the BoS, or the Governor.
You could play around with this and simply say Kelly's performance is somewhat to blame.
But seriously, Kelly's agent, (Trace Armstrong) is well known nationally for aggressive contract leverage, where he is known to box schools in, make "for cause" almost impossible to secure maximum buyout. That style can make disputes get hostile fast (which has happened ding ding) because there's very little wiggle room. It raises the stakes.
So no, no it's not 100% the fault of someone at LSU, the BoS, or the Governor.
This post was edited on 11/14/25 at 3:48 pm
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Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:50 pm to IM_4_LSU
Landry needs to keep his damn mouth shut!!!
Posted on 11/14/25 at 3:57 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:Wrong. Kelly was terminated without cause. The full procedure for termination without cause requires only that LSU provide written notice to Kelly and his Company. That requirement was fulfilled by LSU's press release.
But, and once again, unless something has recently happened that I haven't seen then in the strictly legal/contractual sense, AND according to Kelly's claim, LSU has not formally executed the full termination procedure under his contract.(especially for a "for cause" vs "without cause" distinction).
Kelly is NOT the one claiming that LSU has not formally executed the full termination procedure under his contract. To the contrary, in his Petition for Declaratory Judgment ("Petition"), Kelly acknowledges that he was terminated without cause:
quote:(Petition, ¶ 31.)
On October 26, 2025, the day after the Texas A&M game, Coach Kelly met with Mr. Woodward, Julie Cromer, Austin Thomas and Verge Ausberry, then-executive deputy athletics director (now permanent Athletics Director). In this meeting, LSU terminated Coach Kelly, acknowledging that this termination was without cause.
Instead, it was LSU that first stated on November 10 that Kelly had not been formally terminated:
quote:(Petition, ¶ 42.) LSU is wrong. It terminated Kelly on October 26, 2025. LSU failed to follow the contractually required procedure to fire Kelly with cause. It's too late to invoke the "for cause" procedure now.
On November 10, 2025, at the request of LSU, LSU’s representatives had a call with Coach Kelly’s representatives, where LSU took the position that Coach Kelly had not been formally terminated and informed Coach Kelly’s representatives, for the very first time, that LSU believed grounds for termination for cause existed. LSU also informed Coach Kelly’s representatives that it did not believe that then-Athletics Director Woodward had the authority to terminate Coach Kelly and/or make settlement offers to him. Coach Kelly’s representatives informed LSU that Coach Kelly disagreed with each of LSU’s new positions, including (i) the idea that he somehow had not been terminated, (ii) that the then-Athletics Director Woodward was not acting with authority (in a meeting attended by several LSU athletics officials, including the current Athletics Director Ausberry), and (iii) that there were any grounds for termination with cause (or that LSU could manufacture any such grounds after his termination), thus necessitating this action.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:04 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:There's a contract.
And oh, this also is false.
You could play around with this and simply say Kelly's performance is somewhat to blame.
But seriously, Kelly's agent, (Trace Armstrong) is well known nationally for aggressive contract leverage, where he is known to box schools in, make "for cause" almost impossible to secure maximum buyout. That style can make disputes get hostile fast (which has happened ding ding) because there's very little wiggle room. It raises the stakes.
So no, no it's not 100% the fault of someone at LSU, the BoS, or the Governor.
The contract is clear and unambiguous.
LSU signed the contract regardless of the terms that you're now crying about.
The contract sets forth rather detailed procedures to terminate Kelly for cause.
LSU failed to follow any of the procedures to terminate Kelly for cause.
LSU followed the procedure to terminate Kelly without cause.
LSU terminated Kelly without cause.
In the course of negotiating the details of paying the liquidated damages provision of the contract, LSU suggested that maybe Kelly could be terminated for cause.
It's far too late for LSU to terminate Kelly with cause.
So yes, it's 100% the fault of someone at LSU, the BoS, or the Governor.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:18 pm to GrizzlyWintergreen
Please keep in mind the governor had enormous influence over the firing of Kelly, termination and supposed settlement. Governor floated the idea of having Trump coach the Tigers. Not surprising the firing and settlement dispute is ugly and greatly mismanaged.
Why does LSU have an AD or Chancellor or President when the governor controls all aspects? Yes I know they are puppets, but for a University to have a strong Athletic and academics program you need independent and bright people to think on their own. I get the impression each one will be asking Landry if its okay to do this and that.
Why does LSU have an AD or Chancellor or President when the governor controls all aspects? Yes I know they are puppets, but for a University to have a strong Athletic and academics program you need independent and bright people to think on their own. I get the impression each one will be asking Landry if its okay to do this and that.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:38 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:
No one here knows what LSU may or may not have on BK that would allow them to fire him for "cause".
We do know that they didn’t choose to terminate him for cause, and if they’re using some rumors as leverage and a veiled threat of termination for cause, that’s a dangerous game.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:40 pm to Tigers4Lyfe
quote:
But seriously, Kelly's agent, (Trace Armstrong) is well known nationally for aggressive contract leverage, where he is known to box schools in, make "for cause" almost impossible to secure maximum buyout.
Oh geez. For cause termination provisions in every industry are generally “almost impossible”. When actually used, it’s because the entire relationship has become a shite show, and I don’t mean performance just not being good.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:41 pm to GrizzlyWintergreen
It’s all Landry….dude is a lawyer and thinks he is smarter than everyone else.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:42 pm to Mudminnow
100%
Posted on 11/14/25 at 4:43 pm to Mudminnow
quote:
bright people
Rules out Louisianans.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 5:58 pm to Salviati
I'm not crying and unless you're in the room you don't know a thing.
Posted on 11/14/25 at 7:03 pm to GrizzlyWintergreen
Between Landry and the lawsuit……
No Coach will touch LSU … when LSU should be the Top Job Available !’
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