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re: Who will admit O has exceeded expectations and is an upgrade from Les?

Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:55 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:55 am to
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Strictly an opinion. That is not fact, and even you know that.


It's never happened, so I'm playing the odds.

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Strictly opinion


It's never happened, I'll be happy to adjust if it ever does.

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But I will say that had we run the table either year, after either loss, we would have been in the NC game. Would you agree?


I would, but a team that has a loss like that never runs the table, so...
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:56 am to
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Simple common sense will tell you a conference loss hurts your chances at winning the conference far more than an OOC loss.


Not shocked you ignore the data while still being condescending as ever.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:58 am to
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Not shocked you ignore the data


Your data is worthless when you consider the level of competition of the overwhelming majority of non conference games.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:59 am to
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Your data is worthless


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when you consider the level of competition of the overwhelming majority of non conference games.


No one is arguing the mathematics. I will however argue how it plays out in the real world. And the data overwhelmingly supports that. Teams that lose OOC rarely win the championship.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:00 am to
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It's never happened, so I'm playing the odds.

Fair enough. Then say you're playing the odds. Don't state that it's irrelevant. Because if it's possible, there is some relevancy. Agree?
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It's never happened, I'll be happy to adjust if it ever does.

Correct. So you agree, it's your opinion because it's never happened in the past. But it's a possibility, no matter how slight, and thus, it's actually has some relevance, agree?
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I would,

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but a team that has a loss like that never runs the table, so...


Oh, Jesus....
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:00 am to
Which hurts LSU's chance for a conference championship more next year.

Loss to Texas

Loss to Alabama.

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:01 am to
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Fair enough. Then say you're playing the odds. Don't state that it's irrelevant. Because if it's possible, there is some relevancy. Agree?


It's irrelevant until a team has a loss like that and wins a championship. I will not hold my breath, and if you're honest, neither will you.

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Oh, Jesus....


It's never happened, yes or no?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:02 am to
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Which hurts LSU's chance for a conference championship more next year.

Loss to Texas

Loss to Alabama.


Try reading my post before asking your next question.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:02 am to
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And the data overwhelmingly supports that


Probably because the winning pctg vs non conference teams is far higher than winning percentage vs in conference play.

Its' very simple. Context.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:03 am to
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Try reading my post before asking your next question.


Skirting the question again...
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:03 am to
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Skirting the question again...


I already addressed the point you're trying to make. But since you are slow, I'll say it again.

No one is arguing the mathematics.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:04 am to
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1 team has lost an OOC game and won the title in that time frame.


Florida? or were they outside the time frame?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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I already addressed the point you're trying to make


Afraid to answer the question.

Again.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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Florida? or were they outside the time frame?


UF when? not '06 or '08. Both losses in conference.

The answer was 2014 tOSU.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 11:06 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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Afraid to answer the question.

Again.



Did you just stop reading at that point?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:05 am to
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It's irrelevant until a team has a loss like that and wins a championship. I will not hold my breath, and if you're honest, neither will you.


Didn't you yourself say that a team with an OOC loss did win the championship within the last 10 years? Am I misreading?
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It's never happened, yes or no?

According to you, it has. I trust you on that. Am I wrong to trust you?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:06 am to
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Didn't you yourself say that a team with an OOC loss did win the championship within the last 10 years? Am I misreading?


We;'re talking about a troy type loss.
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According to you, it has. I trust you on that. Am I wrong to trust you?



yes, you're trying to mix arguments. I again see what you're trying to do .
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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UF when? not '06 or '08. Both losses in conference.



I think 97 im pretty sure they lost to FSU and then beat them for the title
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:07 am to
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I think 97 im pretty sure they lost to FSU and then beat them for the title


'96 season, but yes.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:08 am to
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Did you just stop reading at that point?


No, you still haven't answered the question. You're afraid of it for some reason.

Most teams schedule terrible OOC games. Of course OOC losses will be rare among good teams.

In the current format, which hurts more?
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 11:10 am
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