re: Who had better QB Play: Saban, Miles or Orgeron?

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Nope. Nothing that the bullshite QBR stat comes up with surprises me. If it's not the most useless stat in sports, it's pretty damned close.

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It's fine if you don't like the QBR stat.
But the Yards per Play is impressive under Orgeron.
And it's only 8 games, but it does include games vs. Bama and Florida in O's limited sample size.

It's not a QBR stat lol shows how much these ppl know. It's his passer rating. The Etling haters are the most uneducated uninformed morons The LSU fanbase has to offer.

Saban over several years and it isn't close.

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Also Florida State, USC, Stanford, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Arkansas all have a pretty solid track record of QB play over the last decade+

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Every one of those programs have had bad qb play also.
We had decent qb play in 2006,2007,2009,2011,and 2013.

I should've specified in the sec. I'm sure lsu's qbing would look better if we didn't play in the most talent rich division in cfb.


Youre helping my argument. 8 programs have consistently good qb play out of 126.

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The sec west was shite when Saban was at LSU?

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Compared to the last 5 years? Yes and it's not close.

Saban's tenure at lsu
Only 2 sec west teams(not programs)finished top 10.

Only 2 other sec west teams won 10 games.

LAST 5 YEARS
6 sec west programs(some programs had multiple top 10 finishes) finished top 10

The 2011 season had has many sec west teams finish with 10 wins as Saban'sentire tenure.

2000-2004 sec west other than lsu
2 Teams finished in the top 10
2 teams had 10 win seasons

2011-2015 other than lsu
12 teams finished with 10 wins
10 teams finished ranked in the top 10


Only an idiot would say the sec west didnt suck during Saban's tenure compared to recent sec west.

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Not a big margin when you consider the coach you're shitting on is the reason for the difference

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Stating facts about the sec west is in no way shitting on Saban. At no time did i say Saban only won at lsu because the west was down. That would be shitting on him.

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(2001 LSU) (2002 Bama) (2003 LSU) (2003 ole miss) (2004 auburn).

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Why would you count lsu has a 10 win team that lsu had to play?
Sure I missed one.

Saban's entire tenure at lsu he played all of 3 sec west teams that finished with 10 wins.
Saban's entire tenure at lsu he faced 2 teams that finished top 10.

2011-2015
LSU faced 12 west teams that finished with 10 wins.
Lsu faced 10 teams that finished top 10.

Only someone with an agenda can look at those FACTS and think the sec west wasnt shite,COMPARED TO THE SEC WEST NOW.

Ok I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm not saying the west was better during the Saban era but it def wasn't shite. You had 3 other teams besides LSU that won 10 or more (ole miss, auburn, alabama) not "2" which knocks out 2 paragraphs of your argument. The west had auburn going 13-0 and robbed of a title shot or at least a share. There was an avg of 1 10 win team per year, you're saying there was 1 total lol. And the win pct was one of the best in the country. For some reason you continue to post false facts in bold no less about the west in that time period, don't get why you have to lie. Like I said not as good as the last 5 years but calling it shite is just incorrect. I know you love to shite on LSU anytime it isn't about Miles but posting false stats even after I've corrected you and you've even acknowledged just shows how desperate and passionate you are about hating anything LSU not involving your crush. I posted the win percentages of both eras of course you've ignored those FACTS and used something as silly and subjective as sports writers rankings to try and trump the facts. You of all people should never use the word agenda when talking about someone els. Especially with the weak shite you just posted.

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know you love to shite on LSU anytime it isn't about Miles but posting false stats even after I've corrected you

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I said i missed one. Stating facts about lsu isnt shitting on them
Compared to the sec west from 2011-2015 it was shite.
All of 1 west team( besides lsu) with top 10 finishes.
All of 3 teams(besides lsu with 10 wins)

Those are facts. Im sorry facts dont support your opinions.

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For some reason you continue to post false facts in bold no less about the west in that time period, don't get why you have to li

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Lie?

I'm not counting lsu teams because lsu didnt play against lsu.
I'm listing teams lsu played.

From 2000-2004 BESIDES LSU there were 3 teams with 10 wins.
From 2011-2015 BESIDES LSU there were 10 teams with 10 win seasons.

From 2000-2004 BESIDES LSU there was 1 teams that finished top 10.
From 2011-2015 BESIDES LSU there were 9 teams that finished top 10.


The above posts are facts. They are in no way shitting on anything. It's called reality.

Ok to my original point I didn't say that the era was better, I said it wasn't shite. Remember my first line was "the west was shite?". That's incorrect in fact I'll rank the win pct of the divisions and conferences outside of the SEC compared to the west from 2000-04.

1- Big 12 south- 61.4%
2. SEC west -57.8%
3. PAC 10 -56.1%
4. Big 10- 55.2%
5. ACC - 54.9%
6. Big 12 north- 53.4%

You cannot keep calling the sec west of that era shite dude it's not true the facts are right there. You gotta get over the hate man it blinds you. Btw you were shitting on LSU you actually used the phrase "the west was shite" lol which is incorrect and shitting on LSU.