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re: Who fills in the middle of the Tiger baseball lineup?

Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:07 pm to
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:07 pm to
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I'd assume Breg would be leadoff


I actually said last year that Bregman would be an ideal leadoff hitter. He gets on base a lot, has good power to the gaps, and is a great base runner. The problem is, LSU doesn't have anyone else consistent enough to fill the 3-hole. No chance he moves out of that spot, unless someone just absolutely explodes on the scene.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:12 pm to
He is not an ideal lead off hitter
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:13 pm to
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He is not an ideal lead off hitter


Not saying I want him to hit lead off, but why?
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:14 pm to
He swings at the first pitch more than anyone on the team.
Posted by sportsfan
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:15 pm to
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He swings at the first pitch more than anyone on the team.


But his job in the 3-hole is not to work the count. I would assume, with his knowledge of the game, he would take a different approach as a leadoff hitter.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:19 pm to
I did an in-depth rundown once of the typical hitter for each spot in the lineup. Leadoff is your best base runner. Contact hitter to put pressure on the infield on ground balls and on the outfield on plays at third and home. He can put pressure on a pitcher for the middle of the order giving them better pitches to hit and going deeper in counts. He doesn't need to hit doubles because he can get to second in a variety of other ways.
Posted by sportsfan
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:28 pm to
ell, I completely agree with your breakdown of a leadoff. But, which of those attributes don't apply to Bregman?

He's not the fastest, but a great base runner who has the ability to steal bases. Clearly a better base runner than Laird or Stevenson, even though both have more speed.

He's a contact hitter who rarely strikes out. I'll give you, he won't beat out a lot of infield singles, but he sprays the ball all over the field.

I think he handles the bat well enough and has knowledge of the game enough to work the count if need be.

Maybe "ideal" was the wrong word, but I still think he would be a solid lead off candidate for most teams.
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:30 pm to
He's the best overall hitter, therefore he goes in the 3 hole. The only other place in the lineup you may see him is 4 if they want to protect Ibarra in the 3. Bregs/Ibarra in the 3-4 is not one of the many questions we have to discuss.
Posted by lsu2006
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:31 pm to
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The problem is, LSU doesn't have anyone else consistent enough to fill the 3-hole.

That's not why Bregman doesn't bat leadoff
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:32 pm to
not much scares me more than the thought of our cleanup hitter being christian ibarra.
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:36 pm to
our lineup will be balanced top to bottom. We don't have any Matt Clarks to stick at the 4 just because they belong there.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
84985 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:36 pm to
He would be a solid hitter in any spot for any team.

But I think leadoff would be a waste somewhat and would not result in our most productive offense.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:38 pm to
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our lineup will be balanced top to bottom


hopefully.

but yes in general i agree. not a whole lot of power at all on this team.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:38 pm to
bregman at leadoff? yall arent legitimately discussing that huh?
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:39 pm to
ill take singles all day over power...thats how the world series is won now.
Posted by AstroTiger
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:39 pm to
we Boxtards pride ourselves on tolerating and answering dumb and repeat questions
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96008 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:40 pm to
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ill take singles all day over power...thats how the world series is won now.



that's going a bit far.
Posted by harry coleman beast
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Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:42 pm to
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but yes in general i agree. not a whole lot of power at all on this team.


I said this yesterday. We'll have less power but we'll score more runs.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:42 pm to
not really...if the fence is 10ft shorter last year, the results are likely different for lsu
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96008 posts
Posted on 1/23/14 at 2:44 pm to
yes really. one small ball team wins in omaha and you think that makes it a trend? UCLA's pitching got hot at the right time and a lot of subpar hitters did as well. But it doesnt mean you want a lineup full of singles hitters.

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