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Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:56 pm to UpToPar
quote:
Was Orgeron the head coach against Bama last year or not?
Didn't read my previous post from a few minutes ago, huh?
I'm trying to be loved on this board and now agreeing with all of the posters who have pointed out that being an IC is nothing like being a HC even though no one could ever come up with one difference. I'm going for acceptance and love here.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:56 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:I know that you enjoy being an a-hole, a liar, and an all around shitty person. I also know that you don't care. That's no surprise. Just pointing it out.
I'm sorry. My whole life has only been about you liking me and the posts I make on this message board. I'll give up being an LSU for acceptance. Easy choice.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:57 pm to Tiger Voodoo
quote:
No they wouldn’t, he’s a complete idiot
Did you see my reply to you in the other thread?
Are you still calling the over 20 freshmen players this season as bullshite?
I posted a link and info from the official LSU website. What did you think?
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 4:59 pm to abellsujr
quote:
I know that you enjoy being an a-hole, a liar, and an all around shitty person. I also know that you don't care. That's no surprise. Just pointing it out.
You think you know shite, but you don't. Point out a lie I have posted. Thanks !!!
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:00 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
being an IC is nothing like being a HC even though no one could ever come up with one difference
Uh, here’s one.
Interim coaches aren’t the head coach during the offseason. That is when the pressure is on them to set the tone for the season to come and the overall game plan and philosophy the team will play with starting week 1.
I’d say O failed in that aspect this season, at least compared to his predecessor.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:02 pm to UpToPar
NOT acceptable!
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:05 pm to UpToPar
quote:
I was?
My bad, had you confused with someone else.
Great thread by the way. Let's see why is it acceptable for the #23 team to POSSIBLY lose to the #1 team in the country?
Deep thoughts by HODOR going on here !!! Congratulations buddy !!!
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:12 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Interim coaches aren’t the head coach during the offseason
Oh, I totally missed my lie about this. Care to post a link? Thanks
quote:
That is when the pressure is on them to set the tone for the season to come and the overall game plan and philosophy the team will play with starting week 1.
And then what happens? They get fired and replaced by Ed Orgeron who does much better than all of their off-season tone-setting and game planning afforded them. Not to knock Kiffen who was fired on the airport tarmac or anything before Eaux led the team to a winning record, national ranking and bowl game.
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I’d say O failed in that aspect this season, at least compared to his predecessor.
Yeah, Eaux's last three games have really sucked haven't they? Good thing there have been no injuries and LSU is starting all upper-classmen.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:19 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:On 10/19 I asked you this:
You think you know shite, but you don't. Point out a lie I have posted. Thanks !!!
quote:You said:
Did you always support Miles while he was here?
Do you support Alleva?
quote:LINK
No
Then on 10/21 you said:
quote:LINK
I never talked bad about Les Miles while he was the head coach of LSU. I have never criticized alleva either.
Which one is it?
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:20 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
I totally missed my lie about this. Care to post a link? Thanks
I never said you were a liar?? I responded to this quote:
quote:
I’m trying to be loved on this board and now agreeing with all of the posters who have pointed out that being an IC is nothing like being a HC even though no one could ever come up with one difference.
So I provided you with a difference.
quote:
They get fired and replaced by Ed Orgeron who does much better
Against worse competition, sure. Against ranked teams, we did just as well
quote:
Yeah, Eaux's last three games have really sucked haven't they?
My comment was about coming out of the gate from the offseason, which O clearly failed at.
Now I’ll call you a liar
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:33 pm to UpToPar
It's not acceptable, it's just that we aren't built to beat them at this time and everyone knows it. Could it happen, it's possible, but not likely.
You're right, it's ONE of the reasons the last coach was fired, but you're dead wrong that it's acceptable. If O can't do it in 3 to 4 years while keeping LSU competing or beating the rest of the SEC, he will be fired too. LSU will never accept anything less than the SEC championship and competing in the playoffs. We have the program to get it done, the recruiting base to accomplish it, and so that's the goal.
The new coaches must be given the chance to get it done or else we will have a new coach every year and then that will be the down fall of our program for good. There aren't any miracle workers out there. This program must be built back up, the toughness installed back into it, and recruiting at a high level must take place before it happens. If O can't get that done, he's gone. Simple as that.
You're right, it's ONE of the reasons the last coach was fired, but you're dead wrong that it's acceptable. If O can't do it in 3 to 4 years while keeping LSU competing or beating the rest of the SEC, he will be fired too. LSU will never accept anything less than the SEC championship and competing in the playoffs. We have the program to get it done, the recruiting base to accomplish it, and so that's the goal.
The new coaches must be given the chance to get it done or else we will have a new coach every year and then that will be the down fall of our program for good. There aren't any miracle workers out there. This program must be built back up, the toughness installed back into it, and recruiting at a high level must take place before it happens. If O can't get that done, he's gone. Simple as that.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:44 pm to abellsujr
quote:
Did you always support Miles while he was here?
Do you support Alleva?
This was your question:
quote:
Did you always support Miles while he was here?
Do you support Alleva?
Do you always support the president? Not just our current president, but ones in the past? Come on man. Just because he's the leader does not mean I have to
1. Agree with everything he does or
2. Want him in that position.
Is there a correct answer for all this bullshite?
quote:
You said:
Actually, I said:
quote:
"No, but I have never pulled for LSU to lose.
You have.
But, you are a bigger fan of LSU than I will ever be.
Who should I pull for tomorrow?"
quote:
I never talked bad about Les Miles while he was the head coach of LSU. I have never criticized alleva either.
What I said was true then and still is. What's your point?
thanks for going back thru my historical posts. I wouldn't do it. But, why don't you find a post where I knocked Coach Miles while he was the HC or where I have ever criticized Alleva.
Would be much better than posting your ambiguous shite you have here.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:48 pm to Tiger Ree
You said you didn't always support Miles while he was here or Alleva. That's the bottom line. It's all there.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:56 pm to abellsujr
quote:
You said you didn't always support Miles while he was here or Alleva
Total bullshite.
If you take my one word answer to this bullshite question as meaning that, then that is on you.
Your great question:
quote:
Did you always support Miles while he was here?
Do you support Alleva?
Do you always support the president? Not just our current president, but ones in the past? Come on man. Just because he's the leader does not mean I have to
1. Agree with everything he does or
2. Want him in that position.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:57 pm to Tiger Ree
quote:
Great thread by the way. Let's see why is it acceptable for the #23 team to POSSIBLY lose to the #1 team in the country?
Why do you think we are the #23 team in the country? You think Troy and a 30 point loss to Mississippi State have something to do with that?
Posted on 10/23/17 at 5:58 pm to Tiger Ree
So I asked that question and instead of taking the opportunity to say that you supported Miles and Alleva, you say "No, but"? That doesn't make any sense.
So are you now saying that you supported Miles? You just noticed all of this hate for Miles on the day he was fired?
ETA: BTW, I have never once wanted LSU to lose. Not once.
So are you now saying that you supported Miles? You just noticed all of this hate for Miles on the day he was fired?
ETA: BTW, I have never once wanted LSU to lose. Not once.
This post was edited on 10/23/17 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:04 pm to UpToPar
quote:
Why do you think we are the #23 team in the country? You think Troy and a 30 point loss to Mississippi State have something to do with that?
AP Top 25:
23 LSU
Coaches Poll:
23 LSU
It probably has more to do with beating a ranked UF on the road and a top 10 Auburn at home and Ole Miss on the road. 3 straight SEC wins.
What do you think? LSU could be like Texas and Florida State and ranked in the top 10 with a date for the playoffs looming.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:04 pm to BayouBengal99
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The new coaches must be given the chance to get it done or else we will have a new coach every year and then that will be the down fall of our program for good. There aren't any miracle workers out there. This program must be built back up, the toughness installed back into it, and recruiting at a high level must take place before it happens. If O can't get that done, he's gone. Simple as that.
Thanks for your honest response and I agree with much of what you said, but we'll have to disagree here. Orgeron was hired to maintain the status quo. Nobody was talking about this being a rebuild prior to the season. Many people thought that LSU had the pieces in place to win 10 games a year and thought that with some creativity on offense, LSU should be challenging Bama for the SEC West every year. Orgeron was held by many to be able to do just that. It's pretty obvious after the Troy and Mississippi State games that he isnt. Should that get him fired? It won't this year because our AD is an idiot. But, that doesnt change the fact that the goalposts have shifted.
Posted on 10/23/17 at 6:06 pm to UpToPar
They are better coached and have had better players the last 6 years.....
Just a thought......
Just a thought......
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