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When you have the worst passing D in program history, does losing your starting DBs hurt?

Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:53 am
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
1855 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:53 am
IMO this game boils down to stopping them on 5 possessions. We need to generate a couple turnovers and or a few stops. The Freshmen have talent, and I’m excited to see them play. Hoping the defense allows them to simplify role and play free.

Posted by derp
Jawja
Member since Feb 2015
685 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:54 am to
Interesting point actually
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260208 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:55 am to
I'm not sure it can hurt.

Can we get worse?
Posted by CISO
ATX
Member since Nov 2021
1082 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:58 am to
I'm in the camp of people who believe the freshman have higher ceilings than the transfers did.

They're certainly capable of more blown plays with lack of experience, but they have the athleticism the other guys did not have.
Posted by Blast and Laugh
Texas
Member since Feb 2005
1860 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:00 am to
I agree. After Ole Miss I started calling for BK to play the freshman. If you are going to play poorly, why not play them and get the experience. I feel like they will hang in there on Sat.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43092 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:02 am to
I was thinking along same lines... Scary to put two freshmen out there but the starters sucked arse. Maybe it's forcing the staff to put different guys out there and perhaps lightning in a bottle herby do striketh.
Posted by Bring Da Wood
Texas
Member since Dec 2006
1574 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:03 am to
I think it hurts a little but not as bad as some are making it out. We’ve been bad all year in pass D. These young guys will lack experience in a a big game on road which isn’t ideal. However IMO our “experienced starters” were getting beat on the regular anyway. So not that big of a drop off.
Posted by Mudminnow
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2004
34146 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:04 am to
Its mainly scheme. Need to put pressure on the QB to give the DBs some relief or a chance.
Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:06 am to
You’re asking can it get any worse?!?

Yes. Yes it can
Posted by Safety Blitz
The Backfield
Member since May 2022
1855 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:11 am to
You need to rewatch the Ole Miss game.
Posted by ShadyTiger182
Knoxville, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
776 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:15 am to
I remember the 2001 SEC Championship. Sometimes losing players will bring in the right players who make the team better.
Obviously not something to count on, but it does happen.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6825 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:16 am to
quote:

IMO this game boils down to stopping them on 5 possessions


Agree, but we also need Perkins to sack Milroe for some drive stopping plays. We need Perkins to come up with about 3 big plays. I just hope they don't run at Perkins like the faggies did. He is not shedding blocks well. IMO we def have to stop the run from Bama. At least take that away. They will get big passing plays for sure if we don't put pressure on Milroe the dildo
Posted by LSUTIGERS8181
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2012
9998 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:16 am to
I’d be fine with playing all freshman. That secondary is one of the worst I have ever seen
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13390 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:17 am to
quote:

I'm not sure it can hurt.

Can we get worse?


Yes, a little bit.

But I think the issue is we don't think we'll get better. Those other guys were getting a lot of reps in this defense and against SEC teams, common sense says they'd improve week to week and especially after a bye week. All of that experience picked up this season is gone.

Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
20293 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:17 am to
The more I think about this, the more I tend to agree. Our starting DB's can genuinely use some time to think about their place here. We've seen what they can do. Let's see if some players who are hungry to show what they got can show and prove. We already know we're gonna have to punch up in this one. So what do we really have to lose?
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7877 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:19 am to
It literally doesn’t get any worse than the Ole Miss game man lol
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
21051 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:22 am to
I don't think people realize that we aren't just throwing in some DBs that have been waiting in the wings. Behind the wings of some of the worst DB play we have ever seen at LSU, might I add.

These kids have seen the field. If they would have shown an ability to be better than who we had, they would have been playing more. They didn't. People can live in fantasy land, and convince themselves, that being down 100 CBs is a good thing, if they choose, but it's simply not true.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4342 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:28 am to
1st - it's hard to believe we are worse than 2020, or some of the early 90s teams, at pass defense.

2nd - No, it may actually work to our advantage.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50268 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Its mainly scheme. Need to put pressure on the QB to give the DBs some relief or a chance.


This is the correct answer.

I've said this over and over:

I really and truly believe there are at least 50 other defensive coaching staffs that could take our current talent, and have them anywhere between 45-75 overall in the country. They would be an average to just below average defense, and we would likely be unbeaten or just one loss.

Until Matt House proves otherwise, he is robbing LSU of 2M a year. His "scheme" is garbage and if he doesn't change it, the younger guys won't fare any better.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260208 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 11:33 am to
Milroe will begin his Heisman 2024 campaign.

Hopefully Jayden does better and solidifies his 2023 campaign though.
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