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When I look back at the talent we lost on defense in 2012 - It's Staggering!
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:42 am
Posted on 4/30/14 at 8:42 am
This is just a post reflecting on the past 2 years of defense.
We lost
1st round Mingo (starting DE)
1st round Reid (starting S)
2nd round Minter (starting MLB)
3rd round Mathieu (we lost him before the season, but same difference)
3rd round Montgomery (starting DE)
3rd round Logan (starting DT)
5th round Simon (starting CB)
5th round Edwards (backup DE)
UFA Downs (starting DT)
2012 ranked 8th in total defense 307.6
2013 ranked 15th in total defense 340.7 yards
2012 ranked 12th in scoring defense 17.5 ppg
2013 ranked 21st in scoring defense 22.0 ppg
2012 ranked 28th in pass defense 206 yards
2013 ranked 13th in pass defense 197.5 yards
2012 ranked 9th in rush defense 101.62 yards
2013 ranked 38th in rush defense 143.23 yards
2012 ranked 16th in sacks 35
2013 ranked 54th in sacks 27
2012 ranked 19th in tackles for loss 91
2013 ranked 86th in tackles for loss 69
2012 ranked 12th in interceptions 18 3 TDs
2013 ranked 73rd in interceptions 11
2012 ranked 89th in forced fumbles 10 missed Mathieu
2013 ranked 88th in forced fumbles 9
If you notice from a raw numbers standpoint, we were fairly even in the secondary and that's with playing freshman and injuries left and right to the safeties. The worst part was the lack of playmakers. No ball hawks. Also you see what losing five guys on the DL (all four starters) can do for you in pressure on the QB, stops behind the line, and halting a rushing attack. Don't forget a guy like Minter who came up to make big stops and was the best tackler we had.
Aside from the interceptions and run defense, it wasn't a major dropoff, but it definitely wasn't what we have grown accustomed to.
BELOW WILL PROBABLY SEEM HOMER SO PLEASE STOP RIGHT HERE TO AVOID IT
A stop or pick at UGA, a stop or pick at Ole Miss (ok I know that game was mostly Mett's fault), you're looking at a one loss team. I mean considering the shite load of talent we lost, it was amazing we came this close again, to a divison title. I mean we stop Yeldon on that last pass in 2012, division title.It seems like LSU is always just one play away, or one player away (Mathieu 2012, Minter 2013) from taking home the whole thing.
I think we can get back to that this year, I mean Mett only scored 12 passing TDs in 2012, surely we can do that. We have the run game, the defense, and a better OC, to push for a divison title. Don't look at this as a rebuilding year. Look at it as same old LSU, 2010, 2011, 2012. Stout defense with playmakers, great rushing attack, but instead of an abysmal passing attack, something that is decent enough to get the job done.
We lost
1st round Mingo (starting DE)
1st round Reid (starting S)
2nd round Minter (starting MLB)
3rd round Mathieu (we lost him before the season, but same difference)
3rd round Montgomery (starting DE)
3rd round Logan (starting DT)
5th round Simon (starting CB)
5th round Edwards (backup DE)
UFA Downs (starting DT)
2012 ranked 8th in total defense 307.6
2013 ranked 15th in total defense 340.7 yards
2012 ranked 12th in scoring defense 17.5 ppg
2013 ranked 21st in scoring defense 22.0 ppg
2012 ranked 28th in pass defense 206 yards
2013 ranked 13th in pass defense 197.5 yards
2012 ranked 9th in rush defense 101.62 yards
2013 ranked 38th in rush defense 143.23 yards
2012 ranked 16th in sacks 35
2013 ranked 54th in sacks 27
2012 ranked 19th in tackles for loss 91
2013 ranked 86th in tackles for loss 69
2012 ranked 12th in interceptions 18 3 TDs
2013 ranked 73rd in interceptions 11
2012 ranked 89th in forced fumbles 10 missed Mathieu
2013 ranked 88th in forced fumbles 9
If you notice from a raw numbers standpoint, we were fairly even in the secondary and that's with playing freshman and injuries left and right to the safeties. The worst part was the lack of playmakers. No ball hawks. Also you see what losing five guys on the DL (all four starters) can do for you in pressure on the QB, stops behind the line, and halting a rushing attack. Don't forget a guy like Minter who came up to make big stops and was the best tackler we had.
Aside from the interceptions and run defense, it wasn't a major dropoff, but it definitely wasn't what we have grown accustomed to.
BELOW WILL PROBABLY SEEM HOMER SO PLEASE STOP RIGHT HERE TO AVOID IT
A stop or pick at UGA, a stop or pick at Ole Miss (ok I know that game was mostly Mett's fault), you're looking at a one loss team. I mean considering the shite load of talent we lost, it was amazing we came this close again, to a divison title. I mean we stop Yeldon on that last pass in 2012, division title.It seems like LSU is always just one play away, or one player away (Mathieu 2012, Minter 2013) from taking home the whole thing.
I think we can get back to that this year, I mean Mett only scored 12 passing TDs in 2012, surely we can do that. We have the run game, the defense, and a better OC, to push for a divison title. Don't look at this as a rebuilding year. Look at it as same old LSU, 2010, 2011, 2012. Stout defense with playmakers, great rushing attack, but instead of an abysmal passing attack, something that is decent enough to get the job done.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:06 am to Datbayoubengal
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2012 ranked 16th in sacks 35
2013 ranked 54th in sacks 27
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2012 ranked 19th in tackles for loss 91
2013 ranked 86th in tackles for loss 69
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2012 ranked 12th in interceptions 18 3 TDs
2013 ranked 73rd in interceptions 11
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:09 am to Datbayoubengal
Nice data collection. Thanks for posting it.
This sort of trend suggests the continued need to excellent recruiting and early playtime for Freshmen and Redshirt Freshmen...
This sort of trend suggests the continued need to excellent recruiting and early playtime for Freshmen and Redshirt Freshmen...
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:11 am to Datbayoubengal
I think the defense this year will be back to the excellence we are used to.
I think replacing out DTs won't be the chore people think it all be.
We just need significantly better MLB play.
I think replacing out DTs won't be the chore people think it all be.
We just need significantly better MLB play.
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:29 am
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:19 am to Datbayoubengal
Great post man.
Chavis is the man. Our recruiting gives him the talent but he damn sure coaches 'em up (along with the other D coaches). Just think what we would have if all of the guys didn't leave early.
Chavis is the man. Our recruiting gives him the talent but he damn sure coaches 'em up (along with the other D coaches). Just think what we would have if all of the guys didn't leave early.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 10:45 am to SammyTiger
If the Spring game was any indication of our defense they will be beastly this year. I was especially impressed with Hunter, Debo Jones, Kwon, Paris, Rashard and Tre white.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:20 am to Datbayoubengal
quote:
2012 ranked 28th in pass defense 206 yards
2013 ranked 13th in pass defense 197.5 yards
This is what's staggering
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:27 am to SammyTiger
quote:Why would our DTs be singing?
I think replacing out DTs won't be the choir people think it all be.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:40 am to Datbayoubengal
There is zero doubt in my mind we win it all in 2012 if we had Mathieu.
Posted on 4/30/14 at 11:55 am to geauxtigahs87
quote:
2012 ranked 28th in pass defense 206 yards 2013 ranked 13th in pass defense 197.5 yards
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This is what's staggering
People were able to run against us with better success.
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2012 ranked 9th in rush defense 101.62 yards
2013 ranked 38th in rush defense 143.23 yards
This post was edited on 4/30/14 at 11:57 am
Posted on 4/30/14 at 12:26 pm to Neauxla
quote:
Why would our DTs be singing?
He's probably talking about losing "the Freak". I hear he's got a great singing voice.
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