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re: When did Louisiana State paint their field like this?
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:49 pm to PiscesTiger
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:49 pm to PiscesTiger
All that matters is that everyone's hero Gerry DiNardo is a giant, inept, miserable failure and that's why he's working in TV, because he cannot get another job due to his excessive amount of losing as a football coach.
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Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:50 pm to Carlos
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I am addressing those who exaggerate our place in the SEC talent pecking order when Saban arrived.
And I am not advocating that DiNardo was a master of any sort. In fact, I don't think he was a good head coach at all because he could not micro manage and hired idiots to help him with the process. Nonethless, he is head and shoulders above Hallman. At least someone else - be it Indiana or Prairie View A&M - took a chance on DiNardo. Hallman blackballed himself from head coaching in college football with his pathetic display.
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:51 pm to Carlos
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All that matters is that everyone's hero Gerry DiNardo is a giant, inept, miserable failure and that's why he's working in TV, because he cannot get another job due to his excessive amount of losing as a football coach.
That giant failure was still 32-24-1 and won three bowl games.
And what tv network would even have Hallman?
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:54 pm to PiscesTiger
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That giant failure was still 32-24-1 and won three bowl games.
At LSU. He has a losing record as a head coach. Just like Hallman.
Posted on 5/26/09 at 9:55 pm to Carlos
I probably also speak on behalf of the many LSU fans who care about nothing more than results for NOW. Look at all the posters in the "Best LSU Coach" thread where Les Miles overwhelmingly has more votes than PM or TJ. Winning is something DiNardo did for the majority of his stint. Hallman...never. Yes, I know why Hallman sucked so badly and it was not entirely his fault. Nevertheless, the man came across as incompetent and was hired by a cheap AD who thought Hallman would build a new legacy of Bear-ism. Hell, if that was all that mattered, we should have thrown the pocket book at Jackie Sherrill.
This post was edited on 5/26/09 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 9:27 am to PiscesTiger
Dinardo > Hallman
Indy/Peach/Indy Bowl > Almost making it to the Carquest Bowl.
Enough said.
Indy/Peach/Indy Bowl > Almost making it to the Carquest Bowl.
Enough said.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 9:39 am to PiscesTiger
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So the following are failures:
Bob Knight
Digger Phelps
Tommy Tuberville
Jon Gruden
Barry Melrose
Phil Fulmer
You forgot John Madden, who is the biggest failure of them all.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:10 am to H I McDonough
If Hallman was such a great coach, explain LSU/Auburn 1994.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 10:21 am to tigerfan in bamaland
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If Hallman was such a great coach, explain LSU/Auburn 1994.
:crickets:
Exactly!
Posted on 5/27/09 at 12:22 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Dinardo's team beat 1 ranked team in each of his five seasons.
1996 was the best record he posted at 10-2. Looks great, right?
We played 3 ranked teams with a 1-2 record while being outscored 97-32. The remander of the nine wins were against extremely sub par teams. The best of which was an unranked Clemson in the Peach Bowl.
We beat Clemson 10-7 when we made one of our THREE field goals for the season.
In 1998 we nearly ended the Bama curse in Tiger Stadium. But, when Bama scored a late touchdown to go up by 4, they went for a two point conversion. There was still enough time on the clock for a quick drive and one timeout left. When Bama lined up for two, Dinidiot blew our last timeout so we could defend the two point conversion. We needed a touchdown to win either way.
When Auburn ran the fake field goal in the South endzone (the Tuberville cigar game) the entire stadium was screaming that it was a fake, but Auburn scored easily. Dinardo was quoted after the game as saying we could have stopped them if they had just been at the 5 yard line instead of the 3.
When asked about why the special teams were so inept at defending fake kicks, missing field goals, having kicks blocked etc, Dinardo deferred the question to his Tight Ends coach, who was the Special Teams coach on the side. He didn't even have a dedicated Special Teams coach.
I can go on and on.
Dinardo had talent when he arrived and won a few games.
Hallman didn't.
1996 was the best record he posted at 10-2. Looks great, right?
We played 3 ranked teams with a 1-2 record while being outscored 97-32. The remander of the nine wins were against extremely sub par teams. The best of which was an unranked Clemson in the Peach Bowl.
We beat Clemson 10-7 when we made one of our THREE field goals for the season.
In 1998 we nearly ended the Bama curse in Tiger Stadium. But, when Bama scored a late touchdown to go up by 4, they went for a two point conversion. There was still enough time on the clock for a quick drive and one timeout left. When Bama lined up for two, Dinidiot blew our last timeout so we could defend the two point conversion. We needed a touchdown to win either way.
When Auburn ran the fake field goal in the South endzone (the Tuberville cigar game) the entire stadium was screaming that it was a fake, but Auburn scored easily. Dinardo was quoted after the game as saying we could have stopped them if they had just been at the 5 yard line instead of the 3.
When asked about why the special teams were so inept at defending fake kicks, missing field goals, having kicks blocked etc, Dinardo deferred the question to his Tight Ends coach, who was the Special Teams coach on the side. He didn't even have a dedicated Special Teams coach.
I can go on and on.
Dinardo had talent when he arrived and won a few games.
Hallman didn't.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 12:31 pm to H I McDonough
I am not comparing him to Dinardo.
You did not answer the question. If Hallman was such a great coach, why did he ask Howard to keep throwing the ball against Auburn in the 94 game. This was perhaps my most painful moment as a tiger fan BTW. We could have taken three knees and punted the ball every posession in the 4th and won that game.
I know his career should not be judged by this one game, but I cannot help it. To this day this is the sole reason I hate Hallman and always will.
You did not answer the question. If Hallman was such a great coach, why did he ask Howard to keep throwing the ball against Auburn in the 94 game. This was perhaps my most painful moment as a tiger fan BTW. We could have taken three knees and punted the ball every posession in the 4th and won that game.
I know his career should not be judged by this one game, but I cannot help it. To this day this is the sole reason I hate Hallman and always will.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 12:49 pm to tigerfan in bamaland
Dude, I never said Hallman was a great coach. This entire debate is Hallman vs. Dinardo. Hallman was an average coach, who arrived with almost no talent at all.
Dinardo was a joke of a coach, who had some decent talent and completely mismanaged his players and staff to the point of hillarity.
Hallman was fairly consistently average during his time at LSU.
Dinardo had a couple of decent seasons by beating up on bad to mediocre teams and was severely exposed in his last few seasons.
The sharp decline and exposure is what made Dinardo look so bad.
Hallman never had much to work with. Compare each of their last couple of seasons and Dinardo's was much much worse.
Dinardo was a joke of a coach, who had some decent talent and completely mismanaged his players and staff to the point of hillarity.
Hallman was fairly consistently average during his time at LSU.
Dinardo had a couple of decent seasons by beating up on bad to mediocre teams and was severely exposed in his last few seasons.
The sharp decline and exposure is what made Dinardo look so bad.
Hallman never had much to work with. Compare each of their last couple of seasons and Dinardo's was much much worse.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:08 pm to H I McDonough
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Hallman never had much to work with
That's because he was too busy recruiting future All-Americans like Robert Davis and Artie Moore.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:08 pm to RGCjr01
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When did Louisiana State paint their field like this?
I like the tiger eye in the middle better than this...the Tiger Eye looks awesome.
I didn't read all five pages to determine if the OP's question has been answered...
My recollection is that Dinardo made the switch from the Eye of the Tiger to "LSU" at mid-field.
When asked why, he answered that when LSU games are nationally or regionally televised, having "LSU" at midfield would mean more exposure to audiences than having the Eye of the Tiger.
Dinardo conceded that the Eye of the Tiger looked intimidating and unique, but thought it better to have cameras panning across "LSU" hundreds of times during a game as opposed to a less obvious symbol.
Personally, I think it was a pretty good argument. I am undecided as to my preference. Slight lean to Eye of the Tiger.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:31 pm to H I McDonough
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I never said Hallman was a great coach.
That's good because he wasn't.
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fairly consistently average
I disagree. He was below average.
I dont know that Dinardo was all that bad either. Hiring Lou was the beginning of the end. IMO
Posted on 5/27/09 at 4:48 pm to TexasTiger08
LINK
I think this 2005 was the last season LSU did their endzone like this.
I think this 2005 was the last season LSU did their endzone like this.
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 5:30 pm to geauxruston
Who is "Louisiana State"?
Posted on 5/27/09 at 7:43 pm to Carlos
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Major stretch. DiNardo maintained the talent at mid-SEC level, but he did not drastically improve it. Saban
coming off 6 strait losing season's, DiNardo signed the #1 player in the country.
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Saban didn't inherit a single first round draft pick from DiNardo
He did however inhert several players than have played in the NFL. Being a first round pick is nice and all, but I would consider long time starters or pro bowlers to be more important. So far 3 DiNardo recruits, Faulk, James and McFarland(who was a 1st rounder, b4 Saban) have done better than any of Saban's recruits.
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Saban winning an SEC and Sugar Bowl title with those players was nothing short of exceptional.
That was no doubt great, but Gerry D took over a team that had had 6 strait losing seasons, and went 10-2 his 2nd year., while he did not win the SEC CG, he had a better overall 10-2 v 10-3 and SEC record 6-2 v 5-3.
Please note, I am in no way saying DiNardo is even close to as good as Saban, but we need to quit the hero worship and look at the facts and also realize how things beyond the coaches control play a role in the accomplishments we use to measure a coaches success.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 7:45 pm to clamdip
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Mike Archer was a program devastator. Good x/o coach on defense, but that was is. Could not manage a program; could not recruit his way out of a paper bag.
Curley Hallman could recruit, and do it very well. That's about it.
Gerry DiNardo could recruit almost as well, and also knew how to manage the program as a head coach. He screwed up the 3rd important ingredient: hiring and retaining a great coaching staff.
DiNardo > Hallman > Archer in my book.
pretty accurate assessment.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 8:42 pm to H-Town Tiger
McDonough 35,
How does it add up?
Hallman a fricking Aggie by the way
Zero winning records in the SEC conference in 4 seasons.
Dinardo
3 winning records in the SEC conference in 5 seasons.
Hallman loses everytime, where were you during 91-94 obviously not in the stadium like everyone else in the end.
You post what Dinardo did that was horrible, but please type in somtething good that Hallman did besides flying pigs.
Are you Robert Toomer, Ricardo Washington, or Chad Loup taking up for coach?
How does it add up?
Hallman a fricking Aggie by the way
Zero winning records in the SEC conference in 4 seasons.
Dinardo
3 winning records in the SEC conference in 5 seasons.
Hallman loses everytime, where were you during 91-94 obviously not in the stadium like everyone else in the end.
You post what Dinardo did that was horrible, but please type in somtething good that Hallman did besides flying pigs.
Are you Robert Toomer, Ricardo Washington, or Chad Loup taking up for coach?
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