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re: What's the latest on McMullen?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:09 pm to dnm3305
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:09 pm to dnm3305
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Oh, yea. And that has nothing to do with the fact that Laird has two of the best hitters in the country hitting behind him (and Ibarra for that matter)
Aaaaaand you have now succesfully made my point. Thanks!
Ibarra can't bat after himself. Putting him in the leadoff spot effectively diminishes the potency of the middle of our lineup.
Again - Who cares if he gets on base if there's a significantly lower chance of someone driving him in?
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 4:13 pm
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:12 pm to lsu2006
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Aaaaaand you have now succesfully made my point.
BINGO!
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:12 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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If you were to remove one of our best run producers from the 5 hole, Katz would lose a lot of protection in the 4 hole, which is where you suggested putting him.
Yea because Katz hitting with more runners on base in front of him (Ibarra's OBP is 433, Laird's is 355) would somehow take away from his production right? You guys do realize that the after the first inning, the lineup is just revolving now like a slot machine? The protection would still be there. They would all still be bunched together, just without an out making machine like Laird right smack dab in the middle of them. But youre right, I know nothing about baseball.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:13 pm to dnm3305
You just said a guy with a .355 OBP is an out making machine. That is fricking stupid.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:14 pm to lsu2006
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Aaaaaand you have now succesfully made my point. Thanks!
What fricking point is that? The point is really that Laird is a product of the hitters hitting behind him and not his speed. Ibarra would be that same fricking run scoring machine and then some because he gets on base ALOT more than Laird does. How is this difficult to comprehend? You want fricking guys ON BASE in front of Bregman, Rhymes, and Katz.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:15 pm to dnm3305
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Ibarra would be that same fricking run scoring machine
But he wouldn't be driving in runs.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:15 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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You just said a guy with a .355 OBP is an out making machine. That is fricking stupid.
Compared to the rest of LSU's starters, he is. 355 is a slightly above avg for MLB, not college. That's below avg. So yes, compared to his peers, Laird is an out making machine.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:16 pm to dnm3305
[quote]Ibarra would be that same fricking run scoring machine [quote]
1. ORLY?
2. UMAD
1. ORLY?
2. UMAD
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:17 pm to dnm3305
quote:Compared to his teammates his OBP is low. LSU has the best offensive lineup in the country. Do you actually have any clue what the average OBP around the rest of the country is or are you just spewing off more crap that you don't really know?
So yes, compared to his peers, Laird is an out making machine.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:18 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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But he wouldn't be driving in runs.
In the first inning, that is def true. He would never drive in a run unless he hits a leadoff HR, but the next 3 ab's in the game, he will have opportunities with runners on. He will still drive in plenty of runs because he's a great fricking hitter. He will just be a more valuable offensive piece from the leadoff spot because he will score runs. He will score runs because he gets on base more.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:20 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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Compared to his teammates his OBP is low. LSU has the best offensive lineup in the country.
And you just made my point. Compared to his teammates his OBP is low. Why in the frick would you bat a low OBP guy leadoff?
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:20 pm to dnm3305
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but the next 3 ab's in the game, he will have opportunities with runners on.
How do you know?
You suggested that Laird and Stevenson hit 8 and 9 right? Those are the two biggest outmaking machines on the team according to you, so he wouldn't ever have anyone on base with those 2 outmaking machines right in front of him. He would probably be leading off a lot of innnings.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:22 pm to dnm3305
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Why in the frick would you bat a low OBP guy leadoff?
Hate to break it to you there, Moneyballs, but the OBP isn't the only thing that matters for a leadoff hitter. I don't know why you can't wrap your brain around this.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:22 pm to dnm3305
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Why in the frick would you bat a low OBP guy leadoff?
It isn't low. It's lower than some of his teammates. I have no problem with a fast guy that has an OBP of .355 batting leadoff. You do.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:23 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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You suggested that Laird and Stevenson hit 8 and 9 right? Those are the two biggest outmaking machines on the team according to you, so he wouldn't ever have anyone on base with those 2 outmaking machines right in front of him. He would probably be leading off a lot of innnings.
What the frick? Youre now arguing that Ibarra wouldnt have any RBI opportunities because Laird is incapable of getting on base in the 9 hole. Then why in the hell is he batting leadoff? And it's not a bad thing to have a 433 OBP guy leading off alot of innings.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:24 pm to PurpleAndGold86
I'm confused...is this still the thread about how McMullen is doing? 
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:24 pm to dnm3305
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because Laird is incapable of getting on base in the 9 hole.
You said that. Not me. You literally just called him an outmaking machine. I clearly indicated I think his OBP of .355 is worthy of the leadoff spot. You suggested otherwise. You aren't very smart.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:25 pm to Swat5
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I'm confused...is this still the thread about how McMullen is doing?
Yes! You missed the discussion about Mike Trout for MVP though...we're back to Ibarra for leadoff...
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:25 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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You missed the discussion about Mike Trout for MVP though
That was rivetting.
Posted on 6/6/13 at 4:26 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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It isn't low. It's lower than some of his teammates. I have no problem with a fast guy that has an OBP of .355 batting leadoff. You do.
If he's that great of a leadoff hitter, then he's still essentially a leadoff hitter in the 9 hole. That's a common thing in MLB that some teams will bump a guy down a few spots to specifically put him in the 9 hole so that it gives them in essence two leadoff hitters. You could have an inning with Laird leading off from the 9 hole, then Ibarra, Bregman, Katz, and Rhymes all in a row.
This post was edited on 6/7/13 at 9:38 am
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