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re: What will it take for Orgeron to overtake Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach?

Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:49 pm to
How is that ignorant?????


Are you saying Saban did nothing at LSU??????
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24822 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:51 pm to
Miles = eats grass.
Orgeron = eats etoufee.

Advantage- Orgeron.

Miles = drinks coffee.
Orgeron = drinks Monster.

Advantage- Push.

Miles = proven winning HC record.
Orgeron = not so much.

Advantage- Miles.

Miles = 2 NC appearances, 1 win.
Orgeron = not so much.

Advantage- Miles.

Miles = stellar recruiter.
Orgeron = stellar recruiter.

Advantage- push.

Miles = tendency to speak incoherently in circles and baffle the media.
Orgeron = tendency to speak straight and can be understood through the thick Creole accent, mesmerizes the media.

Advantage- Orgeron.

Miles = disliked by the outspoken faction of the fan base.
Orgeron = disliked by the outspoken faction of the fan base.

Advantage- push.

Miles = Cameron as OC.
Orgeron = Canada as OC.

Advantage- TBD.

Miles = has shown great reluctancy towards change.
Orgeron = has shown a propensity toward openly embracing change.

Advantage- Orgeron.

Miles = hired Aranda.
Orgeron = retained Aranda.

Advantage- Louisiana State University.

Orgeron has a tough road ahead of him, to become the GOAT LSU Football HC. He is already behind the 8 ball. I'm pulling for him because I like him and want him to succeed, for LSU. He will have a short leash, so he needs to do things right and produce immediate results.

This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 1:53 pm
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:51 pm to
So......... if it weren't for Saban LSU would not be where it is as far as a major force in college football.... there is NO WAY Miles comes in and does what Saban did.....
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68640 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:53 pm to
quote:

could be great, but he is starting with much less than Miles did...


LSU has won two national title and this squad averaged a #5 recruiting rating.

Les took over after 1 national title and a team that averaged the #9 class. Les also had to recruit LA after the hurricanes. Talent in LA was down for the first 5 years of Les.

If coach o doesn't win the sec west this season, he'll already be playing catch up to Les.
This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 1:55 pm
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

there is NO WAY Miles comes in and does what Saban did....


You know this how? Even after Saban's players were all gone, Miles was more successful than Saban at LSU. Some of y'all have a hard time differentiating the Saban at LSU and the Saban at Bama.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27834 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:57 pm to
Saban did great things here, but without Mark Emmert there never would have been a Saban and Miles never would have had his successful run.

Emmert is the one that truly got the ball rolling and committed to excellence. He spent money to make money and it was a big change from the way the athletic department had been doing business in the 90's. A lot of people thought he was crazy for paying Saban 7 figures when only 2-3 other coaches were making over a million, and all of those were established with NCs.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24822 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:58 pm to
...aaaaaaand another thread that managed somehow to become about N$ as opposed to the material contained within the OP.

Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

How is that ignorant????? Are you saying Saban did nothing at LSU??????


No. I'm saying that saying O is starting out with less than Miles did is ignorant as shite. And you know it is.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 1:59 pm to
Multiple NCs
Posted by ThibodauxBengal
Member since Apr 2006
337 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:01 pm to
None of those guys came here because they wanted to play for Less Miles. They came here because of LSU, i.e., the LSU brand and the flagship university of Louisiana. They also wanted to play in Tiger Stadium, the greatest college football stadium in the country.


Wow. Sooooo stupid.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:01 pm to
Saban achieved as many titles in 5 years including a rebuild over what Miles did in over 11 years at LSU.

Miles is not the greatest LSU coach by any stretch.

Saban at LSU - 2 SEC titles + 1 NC
Miles at LSU - 2 SEC titles + 1 NC


This post was edited on 8/12/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by bengalfan50
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2009
2467 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:03 pm to
It will be tough to do, but if he can take the most talented team in America on multiple occasions and lose spectacularly he would get my vote.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24334 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:10 pm to
Paul Dietzel is the GOAT. Neither will surpass him.
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:15 pm to
80% overall win pct, 70-71% conference win pct and 2 natties
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:19 pm to
10 years of sustained success, along with a couple of SEC titles.

So yeah, not happening.
Posted by the crue
Chackbay-Thibodaux
Member since May 2008
3968 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:37 pm to
quote:

Les Miles as the GOAT LSU football coach
you misspelled nick saban
Posted by SaintLSU
Gretna
Member since Apr 2007
3400 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:39 pm to
Easy Miles is no where near GOAT. Saban is the reason for his championship with 2 losses. The man will forever be the most overrated garbage head coach in history. He comes before Saban and he is fired in 3 years. He is Larry Coker
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Wow. Sooooo stupid.


That wacko's post was stupid, but believe it or not, that stupid post wouldn't crack into his top ten stupid posts.

if you want a good laugh, try reading some of his posts about what a great job Orgeron did as the Ole Miss head coach.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Saban was the GOAT LSU coach IMO


Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Easy Miles is no where near GOAT. Saban is the reason for his championship with 2 losses. The man will forever be the most overrated garbage head coach in history. He comes before Saban and he is fired in 3 years. He is Larry Coker

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