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re: What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?

Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:16 am to
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:16 am to
Of course not.
But when they do the things I listed that would be textbook expample od poor play call execution.

I still haven’t figured out why that FACT bothers 3-4-5 of you losers so much.
Victim mentality you geeks live your life by I’d assume.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:17 am to
Our lists match very closely RickDaddy:
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That he doesnt try to cover up weaknesses.
You can do it some, not all the time. We seem to not to try.
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Knowing that our oline is struggling HE NEVER ONCE MOVED THE POCKET FOR BURROW. Teams were allow to just pin their ears back and rush to a spot.
I'll add it is obvious that our "Run Pass Options" did not include a pass option... receivers went straight to blocking. We weren't fooling the DBs allowing them to get to line on what is by definition a slow developing run play.
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He constantly called playaction passes when no one respected our run game.
this seems to be a holdover tradition at LSU from the Miles era. Which makes it even more aggravating. That, and running a play action on 3rd and 8 outside of FG range. In FB range it's fine, you might be protecting the 3 pts with a draw.

Oh, by the way... I don't remember a single draw all year to a RB.
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He has yet to teach our players how to run a damn screen pass.

He constantly calls these long developing pass plays that dont help our oline.
yep and yep. WRs themselves aren't helping between audibles and route adjustments, not to mention drops and inability to get off the line clean. SLU and UCF were draping all over them.
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He constantly puts Burrow under center making it harder to read a defense during his drop and he knows our pass blocking isnt great.
Note we had several TDs, in the redzone, from runs from shotgun. How about pistol? Guess he never though about that.
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Our gameplan almost never changes depending upon the weakness of our opponent.
my biggest, #1 complaint right there. ATTACK them. Make them adjust to us, and when they do attack that. I understand we have our offense to run. But if they take something away, they probably robbed Peter to pay Paul. Make Peter suffer.

Did we ever just pick on a corner or a LB that couldn't cover with a TE? No.

I'll Add:
- 3rd quarters in 80% of our games? WTF. You know damn sure your adjustments aren't targeted to weaknesses of the opponent when you come out of half and have your worst quarters of most games. That's 95% on design, scheme, and philosophy.

- Red Zone is not the time to get "plain". That's when you get inventive. The wildcat, 4 times all year, was nice. But that's damn near just symbolic. Oh, and if my memory serves we scored 2 TDs in redzone out of that.

- WTF? Dec and not all positions know audibles? What happened to Canada's offense being too complicated... now this.

- RBs suck arse at blocking DL. Quit trying to have a RB block DEs/DTs by themselves. Just don't. Send them on a hot route instead.

- You know, when you designate a RB to stay in and block committing to one side, they will send the cover LB to the other. Every damn time. Either don't keep him in, chip and send, or don't commit to a side at the snap. You might have read the blitz right, but they changed it at snap.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:20 am
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:18 am to
Justice
Rb10
LUBCHBOX
OlsuOtigersOfrickingdouchosero

In like white on rice.
so predictable
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:19 am to
It's equally consistent that you will never blame the coaches for anything and just call people names that disagree with you and upvote your own posts.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:19 am to
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In like white on rice.
so predictable


It's very very sad that you think the joke is on everybody else, and not you.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47381 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:20 am to
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p&g blaming 100% of LSU's failures on the players


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In like white on rice. so predictable


Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68723 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:20 am to
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You think every team in the country besides LSU has a dominant OL?


nope but ours definitely couldn't handle 3 and 4 man rushes against good teams. you need blocking for almost every play you call on offense.

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Why is he the only one that can’t scheme around it?


Oh so you believe going 4 wide is the solution? Look at the first half of the bama game we tried spreading the field and it didn't work. Our offenses against the other great defenses we played were at least serviceable, still not good but it wasn't shut down like the bama game.

Everyone forgets that our arguably best team ever scored 9 pts vs bama in 8+ quarters
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:21 am to
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To be 11-1, there has to be improvements on offense!



Well you would assume that with an offensive unit returning almost in tact with a year of college football exp under their belt that improvement is almost a guarantee.... no?
Id take that bet.
Everyday
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As much as you want to bet me.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:21 am to
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As the other poster pointed out, I don't believe our WR recognized defensive alignments and to check down into more advantageous routes. They need to be coached up.


Why weren't they coached up this past year?

Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:21 am to
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nope but ours definitely couldn't handle 3 and 4 man rushes against good teams


Missed the UGA game? Auburn game?
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Everyone forgets that our arguably best team ever scored 9 pts vs bama in 8+ quarters




That 2011 defense was worlds better than their 2018 defense.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:22 am to
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so predictable
almost as predictable as blaming the players for the red zone failures. Keep bashing the kids buddy
Posted by p&g
Dixie
Member since Jun 2005
12995 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:23 am to
There is no “joke” you fricking douche.

You and 4 sidekicks that give each other e-circle jerks and reach arounds don’t count.
Each of you are clowns on here.

I get it, you need this place to make you feel
Better about yourself... I’ll allow it.
I try and build kids self esteem up all the time.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:23 am to
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That 2011 defense was worlds better than their 2018 defense.

Definately.
Posted by TigahinFL
Member since Oct 2016
227 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:23 am to
My biggest beef with SE is that he gets ultra-conservative when we have a lead and most notably In the red zone.

He doesn’t go for the kill shot. It really upset me during the bowl game due to the fact that we have a depleted defense. By keeping UCF in the game, you’re putting the defense at risk.

Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8685 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:23 am to
We absolutely suck in the Red Zone. There is no creativity when we get down there. We had 1st and goal from the 2 and ended with a field goal. And this happened 2 or 3 times against UCF As a matter of fact LSU did not score one time against UCF from inside the Red Zone. Every touch down was from 22 yards out or further.

We run up the middle way too much on first down and we use backs whose strength is inside and run them outside and when getting to the edge is not really in their wheel house.

And like LSU offenses in the past, we run a lot of long developing routes that require a lot of time for the play to develop and not enough of just getting the ball to play makers in space. Not saying we never do it, but we don't do it enough.

I believe we go through long bouts of being very predictable. run run pass, then run run pass. Ensminger seems a little better at it than others in the past but it just seems we have the same play book regardless of the OC.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
47381 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:24 am to
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almost as predictable as blaming the players for the red zone failures. Keep bashing the kids buddy


I mean, I get blaming them for the 25% or so where mistakes were made. Blaming them for every single one is just bat shite insane.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
86828 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:24 am to
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There is no creativity when we get down there. We had 1st and goal from the 2 and ended with a field goal. And this happened 2 or 3 times against UCF As a matter of fact LSU did not score one time against UCF from inside the Red Zone. Every touch down was from 22 yards out or further.

We run up the middle way too much on first down and we use backs whose strength is inside and run them outside and when getting to the edge is not really in their wheel house.


All execution, obviously not on the playcalls. Fact.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:25 am to
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Well you would assume that with an offensive unit returning almost in tact with a year of college football exp under their belt that improvement is almost a guarantee.... no?





You and your ilk have been bashing our offensive talent all year in an attempt to remove blame from the staff and now you want to tout the return of those players as reasons we will be better next year?

The fricking audacity.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:34 am
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:25 am to
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There is no “joke” you fricking douche.

You and 4 sidekicks that give each other e-circle jerks and reach arounds don’t count.
Each of you are clowns on here


You really should be banned for the constant personal attacks. I think I'm going to change it up. Instead of engaging you and Ben in the same debate every day, I'll just RA and hopefully get you put in time out. That would do the board a much bigger favor, than what I've been doing every day.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47410 posts
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:25 am to
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nope but ours definitely couldn't handle 3 and 4 man  


bullshite
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