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re: What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:01 am to GumboPot
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:01 am to GumboPot
My main issue was Red Zone play calling. I think thats the obvious issue.
My second issue was it felt like they never established an identity. It seemed like certain games they wanted to be I formation run heavy, others they spread it out, others they aired it out. It just didnt seem like we had something to always fall back on and say "That's our bread and butter."
My second issue was it felt like they never established an identity. It seemed like certain games they wanted to be I formation run heavy, others they spread it out, others they aired it out. It just didnt seem like we had something to always fall back on and say "That's our bread and butter."
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Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:02 am to TigerFan4040
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Example, why on 4th and 1 (several times this year) do we continue to run off tackle from the shotgun?
Agree 100%. Brossette and CEH are too slow to run off tackle from the shotgun against a loaded box. John Emory might be able to solve that problem next year but the play call is still the wrong answer.
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We were so good running tempo this year, why don't we run more quick slants/crossing routes to get our receivers involved when DBs playing are in zone.
As the other poster pointed out, I don't believe our WR recognized defensive alignments and to check down into more advantageous routes. They need to be coached up.
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I felt like the UCF game was the first game this season where we truly adjusted to take what the defense was giving us and it yielded 500+ yards and 4 passing TDs.
The light bulb came on for Jamar Chase during that game. Jefferson had a hit and miss game but was in the right place at the right time all the time. Jefferson's issue was execution for this game but he has been consistently good through out the year. Hopefully Chase, Dillon and Sullivan can take some of the load off of Jefferson next year by simply better recognizing defensive formations and running better routes.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:03 am to saturncube21
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Red zone scoring
All about execution
Not Es fault OL jumps off sides or they or back miss protection
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:04 am to p&g
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All about execution
Not Es fault OL jumps off sides or they or back miss protection
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p&g
Of course no blame on the coaches. Guess you missed slackster's thread on red zone efficiency yesterday and just how terrible we get once inside the 20. You can't explain it away with false starts./
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:04 am to GumboPot
He really is not that much different than Miles and Cam.
Very predictable and does absolutely nothing to create and exploit mismatches.
We have several very tall, big bodied WRs and we almost never tried to match them up with small DBs on fades in the red zone or anywhere really.
Sure, the offense will look good against teams with bad defenses but will really struggle against teams with above average to good defenses.
And that will continue to cost us in some big games.
No Cole Tracy next year will expose him even more.
Very predictable and does absolutely nothing to create and exploit mismatches.
We have several very tall, big bodied WRs and we almost never tried to match them up with small DBs on fades in the red zone or anywhere really.
Sure, the offense will look good against teams with bad defenses but will really struggle against teams with above average to good defenses.
And that will continue to cost us in some big games.
No Cole Tracy next year will expose him even more.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:05 am to memphis tiger
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Sure, the offense will look good against teams with bad defenses but will really struggle against teams with above average to good defenses.
This isn’t necessary true. They looked like shite against Southeastern and LA Tech.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:07 am to wrongRob
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LSU wasn't fielding a single SEC starter at any skilled position on offense
This is just flat wrong. Don't pull the
we don't have talent" card. Its bullshite.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:07 am to memphis tiger
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No Cole Tracy next year will expose him even more.
FWIW, we have a really good place kicker coming in next year.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:09 am to memphis tiger
Red zone play calling & also needs to have the receivers learn to catch the ball!!! 
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:10 am to p&g
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All about execution
Not Es fault OL jumps off sides or they or back miss protection
It's always all about how you can put 100% of the blame on players and 0% on coaches. It's pathetic.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:11 am to GumboPot
My main beef is that we get conservative at times.... like in the A&M game with first a goal in OT and we run three QB power runs...
He also does a poor job on 2nd a 1's near the red zone... take a shot man.
Lastly, we do not utilize the WR screens (bubble and jailbreak) like we should. Our WR's were the strength of the team but it seems like E thinks the only way to get them the ball is a 7 step drop with a long route tree.
It was comical in the offseason to hear about them visiting NFL teams... namely the Saints. There is NOTHING remotely similar between what the Saints do and what E chose to do this year.
He also does a poor job on 2nd a 1's near the red zone... take a shot man.
Lastly, we do not utilize the WR screens (bubble and jailbreak) like we should. Our WR's were the strength of the team but it seems like E thinks the only way to get them the ball is a 7 step drop with a long route tree.
It was comical in the offseason to hear about them visiting NFL teams... namely the Saints. There is NOTHING remotely similar between what the Saints do and what E chose to do this year.
This post was edited on 1/3/19 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
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What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?
He has an offense that is not difficult to scheme against and does not adjust often enough. A poor offensive line limits you but calling play action and having your QB take a 5 step drop should not happen when a 3 man blitz is more than 5 + TE can handle. No quick slants. TE's evidently can't block so why not let them release and throw something over the top? One route and play for the RB/FB out of the backfield.
Another is E makes comments about only a small percentage of the offense being able to be run and how next year Burrow is going to really open it up. I'm sorry but I still have PTSD from Miles saying this every year.
We are told that the "not Jefferson" WR's 100% can't get separation and really just aren't that good. I don't buy it based on the talent we have at this position. They either are not being taught how to run routes properly or they aren't being targeted on a play that has a chance of being run. (One that doesn't require a 5 step drop/play-action)
Last complaint... He thought Giles was good.
All this being said there were a ton of issues he was dealing with regardless of whose fault they were. We should be better at every single position next season except possibly TE with Foster Moreau's departure. No excuses in 2019.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
quote:I haven't checked the stats, but it seems as though there is a less than desirable number of TD's in the Red Zone.
What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:13 am to GumboPot
I don’t have an issue with it. We scored 40 and put up 500 yards and people on here wanted him fired. Like all OC’s sometimes the playcall at a certain time doesn’t look good but usually that’s a matter of execution. Our running game stalls completely unless the passing game gets going. Burrow has an inaccurate game and the OL gets beat a lot and the whole offense looks bad. But E gets the blame for it. Execution is more important than anything and we don’t have a RB on the 2018 roster who can be trusted in every situation given our OL ability to block.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:13 am to LNCHBOX
Yeah that’s what I said.
You dumb.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:14 am to p&g
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All about execution
Not Es fault OL jumps off sides or they or back miss protection
All 29 trips to the red zone that they failed to score a TD were on execution? Every single one?
Wow.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:14 am to GumboPot
That it was very predictable most of the year, often times appeared antiquated (run, run, pass) in terms of sequencing of play calls, and up until the aTm game we did little to no zone reads or designed qb runs to the edges despite having a large, mobile qb. Often times it appeared the best wr’s were not in the field and despite being a TE’s coach, it’s like he forgot Moreau could catch. In the red zone and late in games we got exceptionally conservative and, frankly, that cost us two games and allowed UCF to hang around when the score should have reflected just how dominant LSU was.
These are my gripes about the offense.
These are my gripes about the offense.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:15 am to p&g
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Yeah that’s what I said.
You dumb.
It's exactly what you're saying. When I present evidence to our ineptitude in the redzoine, you lay it all on execution and false starts. And then you tell me this "fact" bothers me.
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:15 am to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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With 11-1 should come some improvements on offense.
To be 11-1, there has to be improvements on offense!
Posted on 1/3/19 at 9:16 am to p&g
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Yeah that’s what I said. You dumb.
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All about execution
Not Es fault OL jumps off sides or they or back miss protection
It's actually exactly what you said.
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