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re: What record puts O on the hot seat for 2020?
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:50 pm to idlewatcher
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:50 pm to idlewatcher
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Realistically he can probably go 8-4 and be more than fine.
Exactly why we kept Miles around for forever. We're ok with mediocrity.
Seeing as how Miles only lost more than 3 regular season games twice in eleven full seasons I’d say 8-4 is much worse than what kept Miles around all those years.
But I agree with your overall point.
Miles was effectively fired after going 9-3 in 2015 with a team that had no expectations of competing in the preseason. We were still seen as a team that was a year away from really competing, which we were.
So if O goes 9-3 with a team that is widely thought to be the biggest competition to Alabama and a serious threat to make the CFP, why would he not be facing the same fate??
8-4 with this team would be a complete embarrassment and fireable offense the same way 2016 was for Miles so I won’t even address it.
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:51 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Miles was effectively fired after going 9-3 in 2015
nah
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:51 pm to GermantownTiger
9-3 puts him on a seat that's extra hot IMHO
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:52 pm to idlewatcher
quote:your point doesn't mesh; we were "mediocre" under Saban every year except 2003. Miles gave us 05,06,07, 10, and 11, the seasons that allow people to complain that 9-3 is "mediocre" in the first place.quote:
Realistically he can probably go 8-4 and be more than fine.
Exactly why we kept Miles around for forever. We're ok with mediocrity.
So, like another poster said- that Texas game is big. Lose that, and O better not drop more than the Bama game at most.
Lose to any of the following:
A&M
Miss St
Auburn
Florida
and people will bitch.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Miles was effectively fired after going 9-3 in 2015
nah
2014 and, ultimately, 2016 played a bigger part. 2015 was nothing but his sort of reprieve year.
It's odd to me that there are still die hard "Miles Guys" (and I don't mean, simply those who think fondly of him) regardless of what anyone thinks of O.
ETA, to correct my 'its' so Russian doesn't stop paying attention to me.
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:54 pm to GermantownTiger
O will be very successful 
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:57 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Are you suggesting it wasn't an aberration, though?
Of course not. It is a historical fact.
But as much as it became a punch line, there is merit to the fact that the team never lost in regulation.
Has that ever happened before for a two loss team?
It gives credence to the fact that it was still a special year for a great team, and kept us regarded as worthy of a championship once the other contenders fell by the wayside.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 3:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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2014 and, ultimately, 2016 played a bigger part.
Yeah, and the way 2015 tanked after starting so hot.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:02 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Miles was effectively fired after going 9-3 in 2015
nah
His boss was actively pursuing his replacement.
9-3 was enough for the AD to say enough is enough even though the higher ups supposedly nixed his plan.
How does O avoid that same fate if this team goes 9-3, for the third straight year no less?
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:04 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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His boss was actively pursuing his replacement.
9-3 was enough
Three straight very bad losses in a row, and a 5 loss season in 2014.
There was far more to it than going 9-3 in 2015.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:05 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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2014 and, ultimately, 2016 played a bigger part.
The termination papers were written in 2015.
He just wasn’t given the green light to deliver them until four games into the next season.
2015 was what set everything in motion.
Not sure why anyone would try to deny that
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Clown gonna clown
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:06 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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The termination papers were written in 2015.
He just wasn’t given the green light to deliver them until four games into the next season.
2015 was what set everything in motion.
Not sure why anyone would try to deny that
Those only came about because of 2014. You can't pretend we were trying to fire a 9-3 coach in a vacuum.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Three straight very bad losses in a row, and a 5 loss season in 2014.
There was far more to it than going 9-3 in 2015.
So if we were to go 9-3 this year, could there be more to it than just the record to make it fireable?
Like say an 0-4 record against Alabama, perhaps 0-3 against Mullen or 0-2 against Jimbo?
Is there no scenario where 9-3 with this team that is more championship ready could be seen as a sign that it is time to move on?
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:10 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Those only came about because of 2014. You can't pretend we were trying to fire a 9-3 coach in a vacuum.
So why would 9-3 be looked at in a vacuum in 2019?
Are preseason expectations not part of evaluating how a team performs by the end of the year?
Can the shutouts to Alabama and the struggles against Mullen be considered?
And why does the lens only extend to 2014?
2010-2013 was the winningest four year stretch in LSU history.
ETA: I’d argue that the early success in 2015 was a much bigger factor than 2014.
Miles was not on even a warm seat going into 2015.
But the unforeseen rise to #2 with LFs Heisman campaign just brought on expectations that had to be met, even if they were somewhat illusory.
And that wasn’t unfair to Miles honestly. You have to capitalize when the expectations dictate it.
That is what O will have to deal with this year.
We are seen as a contender. So for O’s sake, this team had better be ready.
And btw, I posted here that if Miles didn’t win the West in 2016 he should be gone, and I’m sure you’d consider me a “die hard Miles guy”.
Out of curiosity, why aren’t people fans of the guy that gave us our best run in program history? He’s gone, he’s not coming back.
Why still focus on the negative instead of appreciating the run that he oversaw?
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:54 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I think O is filler until Aleva and Saban are gone
Posted on 4/11/19 at 4:55 pm to RedTigerRulz
We didn’t control our destiny in 03 and shared a title but we all seem to get on board defending that.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 5:13 pm to GermantownTiger
4-8
Posted on 4/11/19 at 5:17 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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So why would 9-3 be looked at in a vacuum in 2019?
Last year wasn't 8-5
Posted on 4/11/19 at 5:24 pm to RogerTheShrubber
O has lost six regular season games the past two seasons.
Miles had lost seven in 2014 and 15. And that was following the best four year run in school history.
Miles had lost seven in 2014 and 15. And that was following the best four year run in school history.
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