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Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:42 pm to ApexTiger
The vast majority of college players do not have an NFL career. How many star college players never amount to anything in the pros? There’s a long list of Heisman winners.
If you want to discuss the loopholes of NIL and if it’s getting out of hand, that’s fine. But there is no debate that it’s 100% fair that it exists.
If you want to discuss the loopholes of NIL and if it’s getting out of hand, that’s fine. But there is no debate that it’s 100% fair that it exists.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:43 pm to ApexTiger
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Okay but after graduation they can...
so 3 or 4 years, we can't wait?
So you want to deny 18+ year olds the opportunity to earn money? You hate Capitalism?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:46 pm to ApexTiger
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The intent, - correct me if I am wrong is to address the issue of money needed to attend college that scholarship money doesn't cover and monies that were deemed "illegal" to "give" to student athletes by the NCAA
There is no "intent." The Supreme Court found that student athletes have a property right in their names, images, and likenesses that they are entitled to monetize if they so choose. It wasn't set up for the purpose of assisting them with anything. They were being denied a property right that everyone else outside of NCAA athletes could exercise.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:48 pm to ApexTiger
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the jersey belongs to LSU
Yes it does belong to LSU. You know professional athletes can't even do commercials in their team jersey that aren't official NFL, MLB, NBA or NHL sponsors right? Same applies here. The player is selling his own personal name, image & likeness, not the university, school colors or school logo. Again it has nothing to do with the school. I take it you haven't even seen Brian Thomas Jr's Neighbors Federal Credit Union commercial.
Brian Thomas Jr Neighbors Federal Credit Union Commercial
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:48 pm to ApexTiger
The intent is to let this kids profit from their fame
Bryce Young is and was going to be the QB for the most prominent team in the country
That’s worth something.
90% if fans can’t name the players who signed this week. The Intent of NIL wasn’t for high school kids to get paid to play at certain schools
Bryce Young is and was going to be the QB for the most prominent team in the country
That’s worth something.
90% if fans can’t name the players who signed this week. The Intent of NIL wasn’t for high school kids to get paid to play at certain schools
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:49 pm to DBG
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The vast majority of college players do not have an NFL career
and look who is getting left out...Most college players
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But there is no debate that it’s 100% fair that it exists.
What is fair about Oil men in Texas having extra cash to make ridiculous deals so their Proud A&M team can finally buy a championship?
85 scholarships everyone gets...that whole equality thing so we have a shot at parity in CFB
recruiting is recruiting
buying is buying
we've fought long and and hard even harshly punished some schools like Miami and SMU for paying players
now it's out in the open sold as free market "fair game"
the unintended consequences are really bad...
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:50 pm to SammyTiger
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90% if fans can’t name the players who signed this week. The Intent of NIL wasn’t for high school kids to get paid to play at certain schools
correct
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:53 pm to BigBrod81
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So you want to deny 18+ year olds the opportunity to earn money? You hate Capitalism?
We're already paying as follows:
1. Full ride scholarship (estimate worth 135k-200k)
2. Professional coaching
3. Professional conditioning and training
4. Special Tutoring and counseling
5. Nutritional training
5a. Professional Physical therapy as needed
6. Play on TV almost every game (ticket to fame) LSU did that!!!!
7. Massive love and support from fans just suiting up in the purple and gold
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:56 pm to ApexTiger
Donate to CrowdPush NIL for LSU Football
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:57 pm to BigBrod81
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Well now they have the freedom to do so & earn money doing so hence name, image & likeness.
Okay, and how is it going?
you think we're headed in a good direction?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 8:57 pm to ApexTiger
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We're already paying as follows:
1. Full ride scholarship (estimate worth 135k-200k)
2. Professional coaching
3. Professional conditioning and training
4. Special Tutoring and counseling
5. Nutritional training
5a. Professional Physical therapy as needed
6. Play on TV almost every game (ticket to fame) LSU did that!!!!
7. Massive love and support from fans just suiting up in the purple and gold
Lol @ you for still thinking NIL money comes from universities themselves.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:01 pm to BigBrod81
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Lol @ you for still thinking NIL money comes from universities themselves.
no I don't
but people keep arguing players get nothing
I mean frick, they get everything given to them
I am pointing out value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's huge! Where is the gratitude????
It's give me give me give me....
Hell I am done, I am capitalist but only as a lively hood
these are freaking college students...who are only famous because LSU has a brand and it's on TV
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:03 pm to ApexTiger
Like I said, go pro man
do you- be a capitalist! dominate!
college is special because it's not pro
do you- be a capitalist! dominate!
college is special because it's not pro
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:03 pm to ApexTiger
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The fans, students and Alumni are what make College College, and College football special sure the players play... but without the University, there is no team the point of a University is higher learning, not signing some deal for "team"
Exactly. I’m sick of players and people acting like they just play for nothing while being taken advantage of. A scholarship is worth a lot of money on top of being pampered like babies with access to nutritionists and all the good food and supplements needed to be in tip top shape. They have lavish lounge rooms where they can play games or do whatever the hell they want. It’s no one’s fault but their own that they refuse to take advantage of said scholarship. The education they could get from that is worth far more than any NIL deal they could get even if it was just something in money management so they wouldn’t be piss broke after five years of being out of the league.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:14 pm to ApexTiger
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but people keep arguing players get nothing
Not when it came to being able to profit off their own name, image & likeness. Now they can.
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I mean frick, they get everything given to them
Why the frick are you obsessed with other people's money? If a business or sponsor decides they want to pay a college athlete to advertise for their business, then so be it. And the college athlete has every right to earn income off their own name, image & likeness if they chose to do so.
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I am pointing out value!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's huge! Where is the gratitude????
No one owes you shite.
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these are freaking college students...who are only famous because LSU has a brand and it's on TV
Yeah, it's not like some of these kids aren't play nationally televised high school games. Recruiting has become big business. These kids get a lot of attention in high school & on the camp circuit.
All you have to do is go look at a 4 or 5 star recruits social media page. Lots of people know who these kids are before they ever set foot on any school's campus. You should just STFU now because the more you talk, the dumber you sound.
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:15 pm to PortCityTiger82
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Exactly. I’m sick of players and people acting like they just play for nothing while being taken advantage of. A scholarship is worth a lot of money on top of being pampered like babies with access to nutritionists and all the good food and supplements needed to be in tip top shape. They have lavish lounge rooms where they can play games or do whatever the hell they want. It’s no one’s fault but their own that they refuse to take advantage of said scholarship. The education they could get from that is worth far more than any NIL deal they could get even if it was just something in money management so they wouldn’t be piss broke after five years of being out of the league.
Take it up with the Supreme Court.
Ultimately, your post reeks of jealousy. Sorry you had a 5.12 40 yard dash & couldn't bench press a sack of potatoes.
This post was edited on 12/17/21 at 9:19 pm
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:31 pm to ApexTiger
I think the said intent was to spread money from rich to poor without the un necessary illegal payments that had been happening
The unsaid intent was to funnel quality players to the big markets to defang the SEC
The unsaid intent was to funnel quality players to the big markets to defang the SEC
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:33 pm to ApexTiger
To destroy college football?
Posted on 12/17/21 at 9:35 pm to BigBrod81
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Not when it came to being able to profit off their own name, image & likeness. Now they can.
Well, I guess that's fuss isn't it/....Now they can and now it's created a lot more problems that are in direct conflict with college athletics. Now it feels like pro sports... why can't these players have agents? that's next!
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Why the frick are you obsessed with other people's money? If a business or sponsor decides they want to pay a college athlete to advertise for their business, then so be it. And the college athlete has every right to earn income off their own name, image & likeness if they chose to do so.
I am upset because I like College Football and I know how this likely ends if it's not corrected in short order
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No one owes you shite.
Understood, I am just a fan, but is gratitude now frowned upon> Are you on board with the 21st century bullshite attitude..."pay me'"
quote:I follow some recruiting but not like used to...
Yeah, it's not like some of these kids aren't play nationally televised high school games. Recruiting has become big business. These kids get a lot of attention in high school & on the camp circuit.
It's the lifeblood of your program... it is what it is
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All you have to do is go look at a 4 or 5 star recruits social media page. Lots of people know who these kids are before they ever set foot on any school's campus. You should just STFU now because the more you talk, the dumber you sound.
I don't care to look at a 18 year olds social page, you're not adding much here...
We have to think critically about what's really happening and why it's happening
it's about getting players on campus pure and simple
this deal stuff is a problem
OSU coach "the sweater" lost his job over a few autographs he covered up...
80 dollars a pop I think it was....
sure that's ridiculous...
let them do that
but 150K a year to 1 million, I mean come on now....
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