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Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:28 pm to OweO
Let's simplify this. Recognizing that Brian Kelly inherited a program in disarray, are you satisfied with his progress?. How many 3/4-loss seasons are acceptable.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:35 pm to Tenntig
Everything comes down to the upcoming season. He is 29-11 at LSU. If he loses the first game and has another 3 or 4 L season then his seat will be on fire.
He has produced a Heisman trophy winner. Not much else to really say.
He has produced a Heisman trophy winner. Not much else to really say.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:51 pm to Tenntig
Post less.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:31 pm to OweO
quote:It's as if the stellar offense that went with it didn't happen.
He has produced a Heisman trophy winner. Not much else to really say.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:32 pm to Tenntig
quote:
What is Kelly's Status?
It's complicated....
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:28 am to Tenntig
Kelly is doing fine. Program has the best roster and overall staff it’s had since Kelly got here.
Kelly over-achieved in his first 2 seasons here given the roster limitations, and under-achieved in Year3 after losing some key weapons and having to rebuild the defense. Through all that rebuild and transition, LSU still won 9+ games all three years… nice foundation for the program to now take the next step.
2025 is a very important year for Kelly and LSU. On paper, it looks like it will be a good year. We shall see.
Kelly over-achieved in his first 2 seasons here given the roster limitations, and under-achieved in Year3 after losing some key weapons and having to rebuild the defense. Through all that rebuild and transition, LSU still won 9+ games all three years… nice foundation for the program to now take the next step.
2025 is a very important year for Kelly and LSU. On paper, it looks like it will be a good year. We shall see.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 12:32 am
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:44 am to Tenntig
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If Kelly loses his fourth straight season opener against a Clemson and fails to make the playoffs again, the LSU fanbase will be up in arms.
But they still will not be able to pony up the $57 million to get rid of him. It will be even harder considering the alumni will have to buyout assistant coaches and also maybe the MBB staff for $7.5 million.
This is on top of NIL and the next coaches salary.
Kelly will serve the remainder of his contract because
[A] He is great football coach
[B] Under him LSU will never go below 9-4 / 8-5
[C] Whoever we hire after this will have a ceiling of 9-4/8-5.
[D] We have only once hired a man better than him.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 2:54 am to Tenntig
quote:
What is Kelly's Status?
Not getting a raise anytime soon is his status
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:24 am to OweO
Dude don’t post your embarrassing yourself call it a month ok .
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:27 am to Tenntig
quote:
What is Kelly's Status?
I'm a bit confused by this question in the context you presented it.
What do you mean by status? Are you maybe asking if or should his job be on the line this year?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:47 am to Tenntig
Wtf are you talking about?
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:03 am to Tenntig
Employed
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:22 am to Tenntig
Fact no rumor 30% through his contract.
Success is Marginal. Better than Hallman but not as impressive as Orgeron at the same stage of contract.
Success is Marginal. Better than Hallman but not as impressive as Orgeron at the same stage of contract.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:49 am to Tenntig
Posted on 2/17/25 at 9:58 am to JPLSU1981
Thanks to you, Mike4lsu and OweO for your serious responses. Most others were childish with nothing to challenge the accuracy of my comments. A number of sports news outlets already have listed Kelly as being among those coaches who need to show significant improvement this year. If he doesn't, how long will Woodward stick with him? I haven't been particularly impressed so far but wish Kelly all the best. If the Tigers fail to take down Clemson in the season opener, the folks on this site will be distributing the pitch forks.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 11:31 am to Tenntig
I think most fans typically have unrealistic expectations. While I do think the 2024 team underachieved a tad, everyone knew 2024 would be a “transition” year… 2 new coordinators, new first-year starting QB, replacing some major weapons on offense.
All that said, the pieces are in place for 2025. There’s really no excuse in 2025, and fans are completely within their right to expect 10+ wins. This is the first year of Kelly’s 4 that I believe it is rational to go into the season expecting a Top10 finish. His first 3 years IMO it was unrealistic given the circumstances to expect a Top10 finish, and we actually would have had it in Year2 if not for totally unexpected collapse of House and the defense.
As you said, and I agree… 2025 is a big year for Kelly. It’s time to take the next step.
All that said, the pieces are in place for 2025. There’s really no excuse in 2025, and fans are completely within their right to expect 10+ wins. This is the first year of Kelly’s 4 that I believe it is rational to go into the season expecting a Top10 finish. His first 3 years IMO it was unrealistic given the circumstances to expect a Top10 finish, and we actually would have had it in Year2 if not for totally unexpected collapse of House and the defense.
As you said, and I agree… 2025 is a big year for Kelly. It’s time to take the next step.
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 11:33 am
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:07 pm to Tenntig
What a LARGE serving of tripe.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:37 pm to JPLSU1981
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All that said, the pieces are in place for 2025. There’s really no excuse in 2025, and fans are completely within their right to expect 10+ wins.
I agree with this, we're not paying the money we are to lose 3-4 games every year.
But we finally IMHO have an LSU caliber defense talent-wise for the first time in his tenure here really. Now as head coach he certainly has some responsibility as to why we have not - but nothing we can do about that - but now I think we have the guys, let's see if those receipts he was speaking of get collected.
Posted on 2/17/25 at 12:50 pm to JPLSU1981
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I think most fans typically have unrealistic expectations. While I do think the 2024 team underachieved a tad, everyone knew 2024 would be a “transition” year… 2 new coordinators, new first-year starting QB, replacing some major weapons on offense.
I thought before the season the schedule was favorable enough to go 6-2 in SEC play (with home games vs. Alabama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma) even with the all of the new. The thought process was 3-1 on the road and 3-1 at home (splitting Ole Miss and Alabama, which happened). The fulcrum game was the opener vs. USC. If they got that one then 10-2 didn't seem unrealistic. Of course, the loss at Florida was unexpected. Otherwise, the season went about as anticipated.
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All that said, the pieces are in place for 2025. There’s really no excuse in 2025,
Agreed. Kelly knows he blew his chance in 2023 with a tremendous 5th year starting QB (and two pro-bowl caliber WRs). Probably the best QB he has and will ever coach in his career. 2025 presents a second chance with a good 5th year QB (probably not as good as Daniels, but good enough to be one of the best in the nation). He's smart enough to know that if he's blows this chance there may not be another one. That's why he went all in through the portal.
The one bad thing is the schedule. Once again, the opener may be the deciding game. And this will be the toughest opener LSU has had in years given the opponent and venue. Lose that one and it is hard to see even a good LSU team getting to 10-2 with essentially a 1 game margin for error in SEC play. Particularly with road trips to Alabama, Ole Miss and Oklahoma (even if 1 or all of those might be a little "down"). Beat Clemson and LSU has an inside track to the CFP.
I fear if Kelly can't reached the CFP this season he may never be able to do it at LSU....which will be a very tough pill to swallow since he is not going anywhere for a while.
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