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re: What happened to Jordan Jefferson over the course of his career

Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by LSU FREAK
Meridian, Ms
Member since Jan 2005
1567 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:17 pm to
Physically gifted, mentally challenged. Not trying to down him, but he never seemed to execute the offense. Presnap he looked terrified or confused nearly every play.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6059 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:21 pm to
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To top it all off he was stubborn and obtuse


I think that's a main reason for JJ hate... he always seemed to be blaming everyone for his mistakes. You'd see him on tv pointing and making that pissy face... never saw him raise his hand or point to himself indicating he made a mistake.

Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
32490 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:37 pm to
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He also bailed LSU out of the Florida game absolutely, and probably the Alabama game as well in 2010.

He made a good play in the Bama game but I'll give JJ that game. Lee def bailed him out of the Florida game and the Tennessee game. Wheels could have really come off of that 2010 season.
Posted by SwampyLSU
Member since Aug 2014
1605 posts
Posted on 7/28/15 at 11:45 pm to
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Anthony Jennings, as bad as he was last year, will finish with better stats than JJ...if Jennings plays the next two years......let that sink in


Well if Jennings starts the next two years than we're in a lot of trouble. But the stats aren't in your favor and i'm really not sure what you see in him. If Harris starts for this entire season I have full confidence that he'd exceed JJ's numbers.

JJ's first year starting

182 for 296 61.5% 2,166 yds 17 tds 7 ints

AJ's first year starting

111 for 227 48.9% 1,611 yds 11 tds, 7 ints




Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18664 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:36 am to
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In what reality is
61 completion%
3/1 tds ints ratio
7.7 yards per attempt
138.7
Not playing well?


Well, from above:

Career
398-678 4733 yards 34 TDs and 20 INTs
359 rushes 1018 yards 12 TDs
32 starts went 24-8

Jefferson had less than a 60% completion percentage. Also, a 3/1 TD to INT ratio is wildly exaggerated as he had a 1.7 TD to INT ratio. Even if you incorrectly added in rushing TD's the ratio would only increase to 2.3.

Regardless, he had some of the most statistically insignificant games imaginable for a QB. Perhaps that can be blamed on the coaching, but his questionable off the field incidents cannot.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 1:00 am to
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Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.



ding ding ding.....we have a winner
Posted by say when
Member since Mar 2015
1613 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:49 am to
Now why do we give a frick about this right now?

Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24258 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:01 am to
Weed?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:36 am to
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Jefferson had less than a 60% completion percentage. Also, a 3/1 TD to INT ratio is wildly exaggerated as he had a 1.7 TD to INT ratio.


Boom.

Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:36 am to
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He played in a jacked up scheme


Yep, Crouton failed. His best year as an OC is when he was calling plays from Jimbo's system.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:38 am to
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the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.


WTF? He didn't interact well with the media, but calling him a shitty teammate or an a-hole is just stupid. There's a reason why his teammates voted him back.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:39 am to
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Well, from above:

Career
398-678 4733 yards 34 TDs and 20 INTs
359 rushes 1018 yards 12 TDs
32 starts went 24-8

Jefferson had less than a 60% completion percentage. Also, a 3/1 TD to INT ratio is wildly exaggerated as he had a 1.7 TD to INT ratio. Even if you incorrectly added in rushing TD's the ratio would only increase to 2.3.



He's talking about his sophomore season.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:56 am to
Jesus, make it stop!!!
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
15169 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:04 am to
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Jesus, make it stop!!!


It really should be anchored.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68466 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:12 am to
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games against top 5 defenses? Sure. Like it or not JJ had a good 2011 season. I'll take facts over your dumbass opinion. In no way is a 138 qb rating bad. 

I guess you missed where he had 261 of our 494 total yards against #3 arky. ( he had 52% of our offense) or the 110 yards our of 239 against #2 bama ( he had 46% of our entire offensive output).


he had a bad 2010 season other than against tamu, which might have been his best game of his career. two bad games in 2011 against good DS. but even elite qbs had bad games when they face LSU and Bama. he was a below average qb, not the worst we have had. the other guy he split time with was pretty bad as well.
Posted by LSUMurple
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2011
907 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:22 am to
Its simple people.

Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5517 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:56 am to

SEC Regular Season Games

Jefferson generally got better over the years. He had a tough year in 2010, but he generally improved over the course of his college career. Specifically, Jefferson improved two out of his three years. His numbers got much better after Crowton, the QB killer, left.


Compare Jefferson to his peer, Jarrett Lee, Jefferson was a better QB than Lee.

Jefferson's three regular season starts in 2011 were the three best offensive games of the season.

It wasn't that one of Jefferson's games was better than one of Lee's games. It wasn't that the average of Jefferson's three starts was better than the average of Lee's starts. Every regular season game that Jefferson started was better than every regular season game that Lee started.

LSU's best rushing game happened when Jefferson started.

LSU's best total offense game happened when Jefferson started.

LSU's best completion percentage game happened when Jefferson started.

In the nine games that Lee started during the regular season, LSU gained over 400 yards just once. In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game. Every game.


Jefferson had better regular season passing numbers than Lee.

Compare regular season numbers. Jefferson had better passing numbers than Lee: higher Completion %; higher QB Rating; higher YPA; lower Interception %. And that's not even mentioning how much Jefferson improved the team's rushing attack. LSU rushed for over 250 yards in every game of Jefferson’s three starts.

Lee threw for over 200 yards (213) just once in nine games. Jefferson threw for more than 200 yards (208) once in just three games.

Jefferson completed 100% of his passes against Ole Miss. Lee never completed 100% of his passes in any of his starts, not even against Northwestern State, an FCS school.

In Lee's nine regular season starts, he completed less than 50% of his passes three times. In Jefferson's three starts, he always completed more than 55% of his passes.

Post-season numbers cannot be compared. Jefferson played in the Championship games. Lee didn't


Jefferson was more efficient than Lee

From the moment that Jefferson threw his first pass in the Florida game in 2011, he had a higher QB Rating than Lee. Jefferson had a better efficiency rating than Lee, and that better efficiency continued for the rest of the regular season. That's right, from his first pass until the end of the regular season, Jefferson was more efficient than Lee.

So when folks say that Lee was an efficient QB, the "most efficient" QB in the SEC or in the nation, at no point during the regular season, from the time Jefferson threw his first pass until the end of the regular season, was Lee more efficient than Jefferson.
Posted by TangipahoaTiger
Member since Nov 2013
1256 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:09 am to
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Other than being an average QB, the kid seemed like a shitty teammate and an a-hole.



Dont forget shitstorm Shady.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:15 am to
I would enjoy ruining your day, because the stats posted here are just hilarious, but we'll keep it simple...

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In the nine games that Lee started during the regular season, LSU gained over 400 yards just once. In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game. Every game.


So why limit it to the regular season? Why not compare the actual teams being played....or is it your contention that doesnt matter, or they're all the same.

This is a pathetically childish analysis. Good effort, good try.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64509 posts
Posted on 7/29/15 at 10:18 am to
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In the three games that Jefferson started during the regular season, LSU gained more than 400 yards in every game

Against Western Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Arkansas was a good game. WKU and Ole Miss were both horrible teams. LSU rolls both of those teams with Andrew Hatch at QB. And why did you leave out the SECCG and BCSCG? Because Jefferson played two of the worst games by a QB in LSU history?
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