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re: What do LSU fans generally think of Mark Richt as a coach?
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:54 am to Chimlim
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:54 am to Chimlim
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Why? LSU started running out of steam towards the end of the season. 1/3 of the players were from New Orleans and lost everything they had. Just by the fact LSU was 11-1 by that time was incredible if you ask me.
Definitely incredible. A big reason why I have long been a defender of Miles against his detractors. I think he's one of the best coaches in CFB and continues to prove that.
But Katrina isn't why LSU lost that game.
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Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:54 am to FrodgieBoolatz
quote:for one thing he beat Richt twice
What did Saban do differently than Richt to make it into the MNC game?
and no I didn't miss the point, I just said they were ranked # 2 at the end of the season.This post was edited on 10/21/08 at 9:55 am
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:55 am to Lsupimp
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The Richt whining last year was BEYOND ludicrous. It hurt Richt's reputation tremendously.
In terms of him "whining" about going to the national title, I actually have to defend him in this regard.
What is he supposed to do? Just say "yeah, LSU and Ohio St. deserved to go more than we did."
As fans, and obviously the national media, we understand that UGA shouldn't have gone b/c they didn't win their division, much less conference. However, as a coach, how would Richt have looked to his players if he didn't go out and fight for them? That was something he had to do IMO. If he had just been reserved to the fact they weren't gonig and brushed it off as no big deal, he likely would have lost a lot of respect from his players and they would have questioned what kind of coach they were supposed to playing and fighting for if he wouldn't even fight for them.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:56 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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But Katrina isn't why LSU lost that game.
without Katrina that game is a toss up. With Katrina we get blown the hell out and have no gas.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:57 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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What is he supposed to do? Just say "yeah, LSU and Ohio St. deserved to go more than we did."
Yeah its not so much as Richt being the whiny baby last year. It was the Georgia administration and even the local Georgia government that made it ridiculous. Any coach would have said the same things Richt said last year.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:57 am to FrodgieBoolatz
Before this season:
Richt is fourth among active I-A coaches with a .791 winning percentage (72-19). He's one of just six coaches to win two SEC crowns in his first five years.
Here are the win/loss records of the top four SEC teams since 2001 when Richt took over at UGA. This excludes this season.
LSU 74/18
UGA 72/19
Auburn 66/23
FLorida 64/25
The numbers speak for themselves. Anyone arguing that this man is not a top tier coach is biased.
Richt is fourth among active I-A coaches with a .791 winning percentage (72-19). He's one of just six coaches to win two SEC crowns in his first five years.
Here are the win/loss records of the top four SEC teams since 2001 when Richt took over at UGA. This excludes this season.
LSU 74/18
UGA 72/19
Auburn 66/23
FLorida 64/25
The numbers speak for themselves. Anyone arguing that this man is not a top tier coach is biased.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:57 am to athletemed
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Not many coaches in the SEC have done less with so many talented athletes....
This pretty much sums it up. It's sad to think that Phat Phil has even one upped Richt
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:58 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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In terms of him "whining" about going to the national title, I actually have to defend him in this regard.
What is he supposed to do? Just say "yeah, LSU and Ohio St. deserved to go more than we did."
As fans, and obviously the national media, we understand that UGA shouldn't have gone b/c they didn't win their division, much less conference. However, as a coach, how would Richt have looked to his players if he didn't go out and fight for them? That was something he had to do IMO. If he had just been reserved to the fact they weren't gonig and brushed it off as no big deal, he likely would have lost a lot of respect from his players and they would have questioned what kind of coach they were supposed to playing and fighting for if he wouldn't even fight for them
Finally, someone gets it. The guy was asked, "Coach make your case for UGA in the NC game"...so he did...he's our GD coach, wtf else is he supposed to do? I'd have been furious if he didn't....
Posted on 10/21/08 at 9:59 am to el tigre
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without Katrina that game is a toss up. With Katrina we get blown the hell out and have no gas.
Your starting QB got knocked out early in the game. That's why it turned ugly...not Katrina. LSU played valiantly all year long and with Jamarcus in the game would've played better vs UGA in 05, imo.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:00 am to FrodgieBoolatz
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But Katrina isn't why LSU lost that game.
No, injuries were for the most part. We were pretty beat up. But the fatigue from Katrina played a role too.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:00 am to dawgorama
Richt is overrated.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:01 am to Chimlim
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Yes every coach needs luck to win a NC. But sometimes winning a conference championship over another team in the same conference is enough to warrant you a spot in the NC game. LSU getting into the NC in 07 over UGA was not luck, LSU won the SEC and UGA didn't. With equal records, the tie went to the conference champion.
I think you misunderstand the point somewhat. I definitely don't think UGA should have been in the MNC game over LSU and never did. The point is simply that they both went 10-2 (6-2), yet Miles got the results outside of his games (i.e. no other 6-2 SECW teams) that were needed whereas Richt didn't.
People act like Richt is some huge cut below the SECCs MNC coaches... but he has now twice had seasons that really aren't substantially different than the SECC's MNC seasons this decade ('03/'07 LSU, '06 UF). He just had the really bad luck of having his 1-loss SECC season happen in one of the only 3 BCS era seasons (and the only 12-game season to date) where there were at least 2 undefeated BCS conference teams outside the SEC.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:01 am to FrodgieBoolatz
This LSU fan thinks he's a excellent coach that has done a great job at UGA.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:01 am to D Dawg
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The numbers speak for themselves. Anyone arguing that this man is not a top tier coach is biased.
how about this number....0 national championships.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:02 am to SaintLSUnAtl
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In terms of him "whining" about going to the national title, I actually have to defend him in this regard.
What is he supposed to do? Just say "yeah, LSU and Ohio St. deserved to go more than we did."
As fans, and obviously the national media, we understand that UGA shouldn't have gone b/c they didn't win their division, much less conference. However, as a coach, how would Richt have looked to his players if he didn't go out and fight for them? That was something he had to do IMO. If he had just been reserved to the fact they weren't gonig and brushed it off as no big deal, he likely would have lost a lot of respect from his players and they would have questioned what kind of coach they were supposed to playing and fighting for if he wouldn't even fight for them.
Thank you. He made his case (a bad one, imho) on ESPN before the final vote and then never said a thing about it afterward.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:03 am to rutiger
like I said earlier coach Richt is a good coach, win a MNC and the monkey is off his back, plain and simple.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:03 am to dawgorama
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Your starting QB got knocked out early in the game. That's why it turned ugly
we couldn't run at all in that game, and that's what really hurt IMO. we were missing Addai, Vincent, and Will Arnold. Jessie Daniels was also out, but Steltz was an adequate replacement. You guys game planned really well though with the out and ups.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:04 am to FrodgieBoolatz
i think richt is very similar to miles but slightly worse at this point
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:04 am to ATLTiger
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No, injuries were for the most part. We were pretty beat up. But the fatigue from Katrina played a role too.
a lot of our injuries were things that needed a little time off to heal. Shortened camp, loss of training time, plus no bye weeks all year = tons of nagging injuries. Once we had time to rest and heal we looked great. The storm absolutely contributed to injuries.
Posted on 10/21/08 at 10:05 am to tubucoco
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win a MNC and the monkey is off his back, plain and simple.
being in the SEC East makes this pretty tough
he's won the SEC twice and played for it another time in about 10 seasons. that's a good record
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