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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?

Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:32 am to
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28029 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:32 am to
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Stop assuming you know something that Miles and the staff don't know. Take your 13-0 and STFU.


It's amazing how this record has changed many opinions on this board who have been VERY critical in past.

Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:33 am to
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Almost every tiger fan on the planet was bitching and for good reason


Yes, for good reason. There was a lot of terrible offensive coaching that year. But anyone who made a mountain out of a molehill on that "clocking" incident is a damn fool.

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There was a legit concern to think that we had been Larry Cokered.


No. There wasn't. The real issue was how Miles was going to get rid of Gary Crowton, even though there were a whole lot of posters here at that time who kept claiming that the Crowton thing was way overblown because our QBs were so bad that it didn't matter.
This post was edited on 12/4/11 at 7:35 am
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165336 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:34 am to
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What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?

Missed RR on the first big play

Had a ball that could have been intercepted but luckily wasn't

He had a poor first half but he had limited throwing opportunities

And to the people saying that the intentional grounding was a good play...how is it any better or worse than a sack?
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:35 am to
if anyone from UGA could catch a pass, he's picked twice. He under threw RR for an early 6. Then was overthrowing all his receivers. If a team is sending 9, you have to hit your check down receiver.

Also. He. Has. The. Slowest. Release. I. Have Ever. Seen. In. My. Entire. Life.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165336 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:35 am to
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No. There wasn't.

Watching the 2008 defense and the 2009 offense had to make some people question the direction of the program
Posted by TIGRLEE
Northeast Louisiana
Member since Nov 2009
31493 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:39 am to
Its like an addiction some of you people have when it comes to making excuses for JJ.
The guy was pathetic last night.

The throws he made that weren't glorified handoffs were what you'd expect to see at a Jr high football game.
he wasn't even close on the majority of hi throws.
As I've said 100 times, thank god its almost over.
I'm sicking of having ti watch and I'm sick of having this fricking discussion.
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:40 am to
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Watching the 2008 defense and the 2009 offense had to make some people question the direction of the program


But I thought ordinary people weren't supposed to question NC coaches who made millions of dollars?
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:40 am to
How many passes did he attempt in the second half? I think that is a clue.
Posted by SaintLSUnAtl
THE REAL MJ
Member since Jan 2007
22141 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:44 am to
Wasn't totally his fault but to me he looked rattles from the start. UGA played a couple of those passes perfectly and there wasn't much he could do about that. A few of them he threw way too high though. I thought JL should have come in just to give us a spark, much like they did with JJ in the Bama game. Worked out in the end but the Oline started paving the way for our RB to gash UGA.

FWIW, I couldn't care less who the QB is as long as we win. If they are in P&G I want them to succeed.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165336 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:46 am to
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But I thought ordinary people weren't supposed to question NC coaches who made millions of dollars?


Well probably not after a 13-0 regular season in the SEC against one of the toughest schedules that any team has ever played
Posted by RotorheadTiger
Central, LA
Member since Mar 2007
1077 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:49 am to
I can't believe Les insists on playing JJ no matter what he does. Its not JJ's abilities that concern me so much, it's his attitude and his actions off the field. JJ should've had a supporting role all year at best. Announcers can't mention his name without bringing up the "parking lot brawl" or breaking curfew/suspension. He's not a good representative for LSU at all.

I'm just tired of the whole debacle and it has definitely tainted the greatest season in history. Right now, I'll just be glad when they both graduate.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165336 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:55 am to
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But I thought ordinary people weren't supposed to question NC coaches who made millions of dollars?


Typical dishonesty from you

Where did anyone say that?

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:58 am to
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Watching the 2008 defense and the 2009 offense had to make some people question the direction of the program


You mean the direction that went from 7 win regular season to a 9 win regular season or the one that went from finishing 7th in the SEC to finishing 3rd in the SEC or the direction that went from not be nationally ranking to being ranked to the Top 20???

That was the direction of the program some were concerned bout?

That's just a copout by the little faith or cliff jumping or the sky is falling types to cover their arse for over reacting like bunch of school girls.imo

Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
172080 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 7:58 am to
He couldn't throw. He threw bad balls all night.

And he won't look over the entire field. He missed a wide open OB Jr (meaning no one within 10 yards of him) on the first series that would have flipped the field. He threw a bad pass to Randle instead down the middle. That was a pretty bad one.
Posted by RazaBlade
Member since Sep 2004
191 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:00 am to
I was there and absolutely NOTHING.

LOL

Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23142 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:01 am to
But, But, JL looked so sad.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
65751 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:03 am to
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I couldn't care less who the QB is as long as we win. If they are in P&G I want them to succeed.


That's pretty much my attitude. I don't have a personal, emotional or moral stake in either of the two guys. I have, however, sometimes been surprised at how venomous some of the attacks on Jefferson has been. But whatever makes people feel better on a message board, I guess . . .

After sleeping on it, here's what I think is the deal with Miles and his quarterbacks. Bottom line, I think Miles feels that Jefferson is the safer choice in terms of turnovers AND he has that mobility. I think he's taking the conservative approach on offense at this point in the season.

In spite of the crappy offense in the first half, we were only down 10 and then, fairly quickly, only by 3. Apparently, the coaches felt that there was no need to panic and no need to deviate from the game plan (while Les makes the final decision, if some of you guys don't think the offensive staff has input on who plays, you're nuts). If LSU had fallen behind more or the game was truly in jeopardy, I have no doubt they would have given Lee a shot early on. But that wasn't the case.

Lee is the backup quarterback. He's now only coming in on an as needed basis. Some fans may not agree with the coaches' (plural) evaluation OR it may seem like a crappy deal for Lee, but the coaches are paid to win football games and use their best judgment. They're the ones with their careers on the line. There is no conspiracy to screw over Lee.
Posted by Mindenfan
Minden
Member since Sep 2006
4815 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:10 am to
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Im fine saying JJ played bad in 1st half as long as people agree that entire Offense played bad in 1st half
THIS!
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:14 am to
I didn't really want to come here for fear of endless "JJ frickING BLOWS" threads.

He didn't play well in the 1st half. But who did? Our entire offense looked like dogshit top to bottom.
Posted by OBUDan
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
40723 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 8:16 am to
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As I've said 100 times, thank god its almost over.


I think you are the pathetic one.

We're 13 and fricking 0, beating the dogshit out of EVERYONE and you are praying for the season to end so you don't have to discuss Jordan Jefferson anymore?

Give me a fricking break.
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