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re: What did JJ do that was so bad in the 1st half?

Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am to
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:35 am to
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i'm at work trying to remember the game. Hell i stopped watching some of it to get a piece of arse, guess you could say I was doing better and scoring more than JJ in the first half.


I've never been more impressed.

Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34738 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:36 am to
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Series when JJ almost got sacked and flipped the ball to ware for 9 yards, the running game couldnt get 1 yard on 2nd or 3rd down IIRC



The frustrating thing about this is it came at a point in the first half where it felt the tide was changing. I though that play could have gotten the offenses sea legs shake the bad start off and then we cant even get a first down on two straight runs....
With that said JJ did not have a good half...he ran the option well in the second and we barely tried to throw and we won 45-10
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:36 am to
All right, thanks for clearing that up for me.
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
4013 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:37 am to
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Play selection was as frustrating as anything.



Agreed. I wished we would have rolled him out of the pocket and got him on the run. Their defense was playing really well too let's not forget
Posted by Housplants
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2006
1464 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:37 am to
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But it seems some people only see what they want to see


Yes. Maybe you should direct some of that insight inward...


He played terribly. His best play in the game was an ill-advised flip while in the process of being sacked (because he held the ball too long)...I think most of us can agree that his pocket presence is not good enough that he knew that flip was a safe play. He did the same thing last week and it was almost a disaster.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
24931 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:37 am to
Took the words out of my mouth. Play calling was horrible. It was even worse than the qb play in the first half which was also pathetic.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:37 am to
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With that said JJ did not have a good half...he ran the option well in the second and we barely tried to throw and we won 45-10


Coaching staff did a good job of adjusting to the personnel in the game and working around the weaknesses.
Posted by Sports2
w/friends like u, who needs friends
Member since Jul 2005
3724 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:38 am to
jordan has one read, one read. and if it's not there he locks up, he missed the tight end down the seams on a number of plays, but whatever.

he was throwing adrenalin balls early in the game, no touch, ask DP if he liked that ball that blistered his hands.

les plays him because he doesn't turn the ball over, i don't understand why it's so hard for the fans to figure out. look at the field position, if they're within their 20, jj's in the game because of his ability to run or pass, and when he passes, it's low percentage for a pick. he hummed that ball past rueban and it should have been picked, but that's on UGA.

les can do what he wants, I don't agree with it as far as the way it treats jl as a person, but this isn't kindergarten and everyone gets a nap and a sticker. "It's not intramural brother!"
i was just surprised that he wasn't willing to try something else at all. clearly the offense wasn't working, and that's because they were one dimensional, jj couldn't throw, so UGA didn't have to defend it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:39 am to
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Took the words out of my mouth. Play calling was horrible. It was even worse than the qb play in the first half which was also pathetic.


You have to play to your strengths, and the coaching staff didn't do that in the first half on offense.
Posted by jacks40
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
11877 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:39 am to
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. His best play in the game was an ill-advised flip while in the process of being sacked (because he held the ball too long


Holding the ball to long is one of his faults but on that play he was rushed from the get go.

run or pass blocking, the oline did not show up in first half.

Lee would have had no more success with that blocking than JJ
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
8758 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:40 am to
Well this coaching staff sure as hell was quick to pull JL and forget about him at the first hint of having a bad game, even though he was 8-0...doesn't matter because I think I could QB this team to a MNC, the thought process of these coaches is just puzzling to me
Posted by Hoodoo Man
Sunshine Pumping most days.
Member since Oct 2011
31637 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:41 am to
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Lee would have had no more success with that blocking than JJ

I think so, too.
And I think JJ weathers that kind of defensive pressure better.
Posted by Starchild
Member since May 2010
13550 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
Cannot tell me with a straight face that JL performing the exact same way would not have been benched for JJ. You know it isn't true
Posted by yungtigr
Dallas, TX
Member since Jan 2005
3820 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
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first pass to randle. He was open behind the defense had to come back for it cause it was underthrown.



The offensive line didn't give him much of a chance for most of the first half but this was a play he just has got to make. That throw was abysmal and there's no other way to look at it. He makes that throw and the route is on in the first 5 minutes of the game instead of the 3rd quarter.

He's gotten 10x more efficient in running the option and it's payed off handsomely in the second half of the season, and he'll always be remembered as an LSU SEC championship winning and hopefully NC winning QB.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21040 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
The blocking wasn't so bad in the beginning of the game, JJ throwing the ball was terrible. Once georgia saw this then they sold out for the run and the Oline could not adjust until halftime.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59203 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
All four of his first passes were almost picked off.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36951 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
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first pass to randle. He was open behind the defense had to come back for it cause it was underthrown.

over threw sheppard at the 30 yard line should have been intercepted.

Over threw another receiver around the 20-30 yard line when the ball actually went through a defenders hands.


Three passes where he was a little off.

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no first downs and only 12 offensive yards. Its hard to run when the defense is selling out for the run cause they know your QB wouldn't be able to complete a pass if everyone on the defense had on blinders and couldn't see.


The defense went all out in the first half. It's also hard to throw the ball when you have a defender on your back Everytime you are throwing.

What happened in the second half? Did they stop stacking the line due to JJ's first half awesomeness? No, the oline woke up.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:42 am to
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les plays him because he doesn't turn the ball over, i don't understand why it's so hard for the fans to figure out. look at the field position, if they're within their 20, jj's in the game because of his ability to run or pass, and when he passes, it's low percentage for a pick. he hummed that ball past rueban and it should have been picked, but that's on UGA.


I pretty much agree with this. Makes it seem that much more curious that they didn't roll him out some.

quote:

I don't agree with it as far as the way it treats jl as a person,


Which is how?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:43 am to
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he was definitely off...but the o-line was off big time. we couldn't run the ball at all either


Yes, he was and our RB's averaged 2 yds a carry in the 1st half, but some have to blame everything on the QB.



Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282255 posts
Posted on 12/4/11 at 12:43 am to
My guess is that if UGA hangs on to those dropped INT's, the personnel change may have happened earlier in the game. You never know though.
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