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What coach in his right mind would come out and say that he's against...
Posted on 6/10/11 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/10/11 at 9:10 am
paying players? Or compensating them on some level?
I just think its hilarious to hear how there's a groundswell of support from coaches of collegiate athletes.
Ask any athlete. Do you think they would say no, I don't want money? Of course not. So why in the hell would you think a coach would say something so obviously unpopular amongst his players?
I'm sure there are a few out there who have said they wouldn't, but by and large, they're going to say whatever it is that they think their kids feel.
I put very, VERY little stock in Trent, Les, or any other coaches talk of paying players. What else are they supposed to say?
I just think its hilarious to hear how there's a groundswell of support from coaches of collegiate athletes.
Ask any athlete. Do you think they would say no, I don't want money? Of course not. So why in the hell would you think a coach would say something so obviously unpopular amongst his players?
I'm sure there are a few out there who have said they wouldn't, but by and large, they're going to say whatever it is that they think their kids feel.
I put very, VERY little stock in Trent, Les, or any other coaches talk of paying players. What else are they supposed to say?
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Posted on 6/10/11 at 9:23 am to GFunk
i applaud you my good sir
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:03 am to GFunk
Didn't Chizik say he was against it at media days?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:17 am to GFunk
yeah, pretty much a non-story.
i also think it is funny that this recent discussion on the pay-for-play was spawned by the crap at Ohio State.
As if giving a fb player $300/mo would have stopped Terrell Pryor from (allegedly) making tens of thousands of dollars off of signed merchandise deals.
The players that want to play the system will continue to do so.
i also think it is funny that this recent discussion on the pay-for-play was spawned by the crap at Ohio State.
As if giving a fb player $300/mo would have stopped Terrell Pryor from (allegedly) making tens of thousands of dollars off of signed merchandise deals.
The players that want to play the system will continue to do so.
This post was edited on 6/10/11 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/10/11 at 10:59 am to GFunk
So if you pay every NCAA athlete $200 per month for 9 months, that is approximately 720 million dollars. Where exactly is this money going to come from?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:05 am to LSUGrad9295
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So if you pay every NCAA athlete $200 per month for 9 months, that is approximately 720 million dollars. Where exactly is this money going to come from?
The school.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:08 am to lynxcat
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The school
Barack is that you?
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:10 am to GFunk
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So why in the hell would you think a coach would say something so obviously unpopular amongst his players?
What kind of ridiculous argument is this?
I can see it now. Les makes a statement to the public vehemently against paying players...then
all of the players getting together and saying "Man shite. frick Les. That's bullshite man. See if I play hard for that grass-eating bastard. He don't want to pay players. Man frick LES"
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:10 am to RealityTiger
College athletes are major revenue producers for a school.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:17 am to GFunk
Saying nothing would be like saying they are against it. Coming out and saying they approve is necessary.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:18 am to lynxcat
"College athletes are major revenue producers for a school."
big, massive, myth, only a very few are..maybe 15 football, 2-3 basketball and in LSU's case a few baseball...so out of a few hundred maybe 1 in 10 is a + the rest and vast majority are $$$$ losers, 100% gym, swim, track, softball, tennis etc etc....
alos BIG BIG difference between revenue (money coming in) and profit...money MADE after costs...
big, massive, myth, only a very few are..maybe 15 football, 2-3 basketball and in LSU's case a few baseball...so out of a few hundred maybe 1 in 10 is a + the rest and vast majority are $$$$ losers, 100% gym, swim, track, softball, tennis etc etc....
alos BIG BIG difference between revenue (money coming in) and profit...money MADE after costs...
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:19 am to lynxcat
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College athletes are major revenue producers for a school.
So are HS athletes. Guess we need to pay them, too.
Terrelle Pryor accepted tens of thousands of dollars. Reverend Newton solicited 18 stacks of high society from Mississippi State, but "didn't take anything" from AU.
Yet you think if they paid guys like Newton & Pryor $200/month-hell, a thousand a month-that it'd stop them or their families or agents or runners from seeking to get compensated amateur athletics?
Seriously, answer that question.
This post was edited on 6/10/11 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:21 am to lynxcat
I'm gonna answer you with my post on the TJ thread:
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Football players on full ride receive:
tuition $2,870 * 8 semesters (yeah right) = $22,960.00
books ~$500 (very conservative) * 8 semesters =
$4,000.00
housing $3,550 (West Campus Apts) * 4 years =
$14,200.00
meal plan $1,760 * 8 semesters =
$14,080.00
This equals $55,240.00. Plus, add to it not being in student loan debt (I had $40,000.00 to pay @ $300.00/month min payment).
Anybody care to put a number on the value of having a college degree? How about being on the football team of a major top tier program with a damn good shot at a pro career if you excel at your position?
No, football players do not need to get paid.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:24 am to RealityTiger
That comes out to about $1,150.00 a month btw.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:24 am to secman12
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"College athletes are major revenue producers for a school."
big, massive, myth, only a very few are..maybe 15 football, 2-3 basketball and in LSU's case a few baseball...so out of a few hundred maybe 1 in 10 is a + the rest and vast majority are $$$$ losers, 100% gym, swim, track, softball, tennis etc etc....
alos BIG BIG difference between revenue (money coming in) and profit...money MADE after costs...
I never said there wasn't.
The smaller sports definitely make it a more difficult conversation.
This post was edited on 6/10/11 at 11:26 am
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:27 am to GFunk
quote:
What coach in his right mind would come out and say that he's against...
paying players? Or compensating them on some level?
One with a strong belief system that sticks by what he believes?
Not hard to get that but some I guess have no moral compass
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:27 am to RealityTiger
quote:
I'm gonna answer you with my post on the TJ thread:
quote:
Football players on full ride receive:
tuition $2,870 * 8 semesters (yeah right) = $22,960.00
books ~$500 (very conservative) * 8 semesters =
$4,000.00
housing $3,550 (West Campus Apts) * 4 years =
$14,200.00
meal plan $1,760 * 8 semesters =
$14,080.00
This equals $55,240.00. Plus, add to it not being in student loan debt (I had $40,000.00 to pay @ $300.00/month min payment).
Anybody care to put a number on the value of having a college degree? How about being on the football team of a major top tier program with a damn good shot at a pro career if you excel at your position?
No, football players do not need to get paid.
I don't see the problem with adding a stipend of a few grand a year to that. I do think it hurts small programs more than big programs, though.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:29 am to GFunk
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So are HS athletes. Guess we need to pay them, too.
Apples and Oranges.
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Terrelle Pryor accepted tens of thousands of dollars. Reverend Newton solicited 18 stacks of high society from Mississippi State, but "didn't take anything" from AU.
Yet you think if they paid guys like Newton & Pryor $200/month-hell, a thousand a month-that it'd stop them or their families or agents or runners from seeking to get compensated amateur athletics?
If you create a stipend I think you beef up the sanctions if anyone is ever caught doing pay-for-play.
Right now the rewards of P-F-P outweigh the risks. Make the punishments harsher and PFP will end.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:31 am to stapuffmarshy
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Not hard to get that but some I guess have no moral compass
There is nothing 'moral' or 'immoral' inherently about paying a college athlete to play a sport. Once you add the rule of "pay is not allowed in forms x, y, and z" then you create moral hazard but when having the discussion of whether someone should be paid or not, moral implications are not involved.
Posted on 6/10/11 at 11:31 am to lynxcat
Lynx..well said, but are you saying only football? This would be nice, but with Title IX think this is a non starter and what about football teams that stink....just do not think it can be done...at least not right...
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