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re: Well, this ESPN CFB documentary just took a dark turn

Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:25 am to
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:25 am to
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off of free labor though.



wholly scholarship is worthless I suppose.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:25 am to
Wrong. No one is arguing history. It’s the intentional portrayal that I and many others take issue with. It serves no purpose other than to push a specific agenda.

Either you’re willfully ignorant or in agreement.
Posted by Flightnclouds
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:31 am to
The head in the sand mentality here is astounding. Players get an education blah blah. How about the LSU frat boys here go to class, practice countless hours a week, lift weights 12 mo a year, meetings at 6am. Also, go through 2 a days against the best athletes in the country. All the while knowing the university makes millions a year on your efforts while you worry if your family can afford to travel to see you play in person. My bad, that’s right y’all frat boys were not good enough to even get recruited by delta community college much less a Power 5 school to have a clue what I’m talking about.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:40 am to
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It’s the intentional portrayal that I and many others take issue with


What are they trying to portray. Honest question.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:40 am to
THEN DON’T PLAY.

If that is your ungrateful mentality, no one forces you to be here.

Oh wait, you mean these schools offer a once in a lifetime opportunity these athletes would otherwise never have? Maybe these athletes should go to the HBCU’s instead. There’s no difference.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:42 am to
They’re trying to portray a system that is designed to be detrimental to blacks and our country, along with whites, are to blame.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:44 am to
Whoa. You realize they choose to do all that right? I don't feel sorry for any football player on scholly. They can go do something easier if they like, with less reward of course.

Wish I would've been good enough or dedicated enough to play collegiately.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:49 am to
Maybe I missed the first part then.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 1:52 am to
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wholly scholarship is worthless I suppose.



Other people on academic scholarship can get a job in their field of study and get paid.
Posted by Tigers eyes
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 4:55 am to
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“The irony is schools that once wouldn’t recruit black players now used them to their advantage and to the detriment of historically black colleges.”

So, the NAACP, and many other figures and organizations fought and pleaded and sacrificed so black students could get into predominately white schools and now it's a bad thing. So, what are they saying, they want equal opportunity for all students except student athletes. So LSU should not recruit black student athletes now because it's detrimental to black colleges? What about the rights of those student athletes, shouldn't they have the same chance and opportunity to get an education as those non athletic students, and without being marked as a contributing factor to the detriment of black colleges? This statement doesn't just blame major universities for the detriment of black colleges, it's pointing at black student athletes as well. Not one single student athlete, white, black, pink, yellow, brown or whatever skin color they are, has ever been forced to attend a particular school. But the entire reason predominately white schools began offering scholarships to black athletes in the first place is because of the civil rights movement. But now it's a bad thing? WTF!!! Just someone else trying to stir the pot and make it look like black students are being exploited. White kids play college athletics as well, not just black. OMG What ignorance>

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And of course the B-roll during the phrase shows LSU players running out of the tunnel.

I doubt any recruit will let this affect their opinion of LSU negatively. Hell, alabamas own governor stood in the way so black student could get into a predominately white school.

This is just a pile of dog crap!!!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26334 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 5:44 am to
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You can't deny though that college football has become a billion dollar industry off of free labor though.



Players are very highly compensated. Sorry it’s not in direct cash payments, but they know the rules before they sign up.
Posted by Strannix
District 11
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 8/25/19 at 5:48 am to
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If black players decided to stop going to SEC, Big 10, and Pac 12 conferences for historically black schools. Do you think teams like Bama and Clemson would still prevail?


What are you trying to say?
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26334 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 5:51 am to
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The head in the sand mentality here is astounding. Players get an education blah blah. How about the LSU frat boys here go to class, practice countless hours a week, lift weights 12 mo a year, meetings at 6am. Also, go through 2 a days against the best athletes in the country. All the while knowing the university makes millions a year on your efforts while you worry if your family can afford to travel to see you play in person. My bad, that’s right y’all frat boys were not good enough to even get recruited by delta community college much less a Power 5 school to have a clue what I’m talking about.


It’s such a shame that football players are forced to undergo such mistreatement.

Their scholarships, stipends, per diems, free apparel, free electronics, free meals, free housing, and access to world class nutrition center and fitness facilities is their payment. The opportunity to go to the NFL is their payment.

After all, they are not at the university to get paid. That was never offered to them. Don’t like that they have to attend college? Blame the NFL, it’s their rule.

What non-athlete college student receives the value of all of those things from their university? It’s an incredibly small number, if there are any.
This post was edited on 8/25/19 at 5:53 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:11 am to
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Are they lying?


It's 100% irrelevant.

The world is a much different place than it was a half century ago.
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12953 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:19 am to
If it's that rough, then don't play, apply for a grant or financial aid, and go to class like the rest of the student body.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:33 am to
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My bad, that’s right y’all frat boys were not good enough to even get recruited by delta community college much less a Power 5 school to have a clue what I’m talking about.


You don't.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:35 am to
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off of free labor though.


That's a terrible take.

Do you know the value of an athletic scholarship? It's more than most people make.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260563 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:36 am to
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It’s such a shame that football players are forced to undergo such mistreatement.


College athletics have helped create more wealth and popularity for disadvantaged kids than any other industry.
Posted by LSUexile
South Carolina
Member since Dec 2004
541 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:48 am to
Yep, SeanLSU, it is what it is. Reminded me of when schools were integrated in suburban Atlanta. They closed the black high school and bussed the students to white high schools. The black students at my high school (late 60s early 70s) were assimilated into the overwhelmingly white student body, though I am sure some (many) felt out of place. Some of the black athletes became the stars of our teams. It is not unlike what happened at the college level in the early days of integration. Now, those suburbs (and those high schools) are predominately African-American.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2041 posts
Posted on 8/25/19 at 6:51 am to
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Oh wait, you mean these schools offer a once in a lifetime opportunity these athletes would otherwise never have? Maybe these athletes should go to the HBCU’s instead. There’s no difference.


Um... I think you just articulated the point the documentary was trying to make. HBCU’s lost the best players because they don’t have the resources to complete with the P5’s. HBCU’s could have competed with the P5’s if the P5’s continued to segregate. Integration allowed the P5’s to take the HBCU’s only resource.
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