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re: We will NEVER out-recruit Bama while Saban is there
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:31 pm to bencoleman
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:31 pm to bencoleman
They're not as good as norm, but E's system makes it much worse on them. Hell, last season's o-line looked better against sabamm in Canada's system. The shifts were a big help.
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Posted on 11/8/18 at 2:01 am to questionable
You'll never do it period. They can pay players more than we can.
That said an attractive OC hire could attract more offensive playmakers. Obviously focus on lineman first.
That said an attractive OC hire could attract more offensive playmakers. Obviously focus on lineman first.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:12 am to questionable
quote:Nope.
We will NEVER out-recruit Bama while Saban is there
quote:yep.
If you can’t match their talent, you have to out-scheme them
HOWEVER, you can mitigate it.
First and foremost is the trenches. Nationwide recruiting, expanded, offers everywhere, priority. If we can match them in the trenches by expanding our raidus for people with their hands in the dirt and prioritization that scheming becomes easier and more effective.
Secondly, fight like hell and cheat smartly for any lineman we're in a battle with Bama (or any SEC-W opponent) with. It is a double whammy to lose a premiere lineman to them.
For 4 years in a row we had arguably the best backs LSU ever had in the modern area and they were negated by getting beat up front. Win the recruiting battle in the trenches, significantly increase your chances on the field.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:25 am to questionable
We can recruit and coach better. We must have a better strength program. No,scheme can overcome the inability to at least get a standoff at the line of scrimmage. For five years now we have not blocked the Bama front. This game might have been the worst.
Defensively we were dominated as well. Why aren’t you guys talking about getting a new DC.
Defensively we were dominated as well. Why aren’t you guys talking about getting a new DC.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 6:42 am to questionable
We will never out-recruit Saban until we start out-scheming him
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:17 am to mhc4tigers
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Defensively we were dominated as well. Why aren’t you guys talking about getting a new DC
You better shut it up. You can't criticize Aranda under any circumstances. You can go over his head and blame O for any deficiencies on the defense.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:28 am to bencoleman
Yeah so lets just disband the football program until Saban retires. And the rest of the SEC should do the same since they will be out recruited as well. Damn shame, I really enjoyed the football team.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:31 am to questionable
Do you have any thoughts of your own, or do you want to just keep quoting Matt Moscona?
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:34 am to questionable
quote:
We will NEVER out-recruit Bama while Saban is there
This nerd says “Come on O, you can do it too!!!”
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 7:35 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:43 am to questionable
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How is this so difficult to understand? If you can’t match their talent, you have to out-scheme them.
How can ANYONE watch that garbage offensive “gameplan” Saturday and claim all we need is better line talent?
Since Sabans second or maybe third year, he had more talent that every single team Bama has faced with the only exception being the 2011 LSU team.
Yet he has lost games on almost every year.
If our only issue is less talent, how have those other teams managed to beat Saban.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:44 am to questionable
so many of you guys are wasting your talents. you should be making millions working as football coaches.
I don't accept that we can't recruit on a high level. O is trying. while our classes may look like we have high star rankings, we don't have enough star power on the lines. this is being addressed, and it doesn't happen overnight.
when we get closer to line talent, then you can properly evaluate the scheme difference.
I don't accept that we can't recruit on a high level. O is trying. while our classes may look like we have high star rankings, we don't have enough star power on the lines. this is being addressed, and it doesn't happen overnight.
when we get closer to line talent, then you can properly evaluate the scheme difference.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:44 am to AlwysATgr
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But there isn't nearly the talent gap that some would have us believe. Both recruiting rankings (inbound) and NFL drafts (outbound) confirm we have lots of talent
Shhhhhhh
Don’t break narrative.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:47 am to AlwysATgr
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But there isn't nearly the talent gap that some would have us believe. Both recruiting rankings (inbound) and NFL drafts (outbound) confirm we have lots of talent.
Yes there is. Bama is #1 and we are #6 in current(2018) roster talent done by 247. Some people don't understand how insanely deep they are at every position.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:51 am to Howyouluhdat
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But there isn't nearly the talent gap that some would have us believe. Both recruiting rankings (inbound) and NFL drafts (outbound) confirm we have lots of talent.
Yes there is. Bama is #1 and we are #6 in current(2018) roster talent done by 247
You do realize that there is not a huge talent gap between any recruiting class ranked in the top 10?
Sure Bama may be 1, but the difference between 1 and 6 is not so great.
Now if Ed keeps bringing in classes outside the top 10, the gap will really expand.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:31 am to questionable
You don't have to have THE number one class each year. You just need consistent top 5 classes.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:42 am to questionable
No one will consistently out recruit Saban. Regardless though, even Les Miles was able to keep most games fairly close with Nick.
Ed O is too busy blaming his current players instead of placing the blame on himself and his crappy assistants and their lack of player development along with shitty games plans and worse offenses than Les Miles.
You have to show some form of a pulse when you play Bama and not be so chicken shite as to go for a FG just to keep from being blanked. I'm glad he missed it.
Ed O is too busy blaming his current players instead of placing the blame on himself and his crappy assistants and their lack of player development along with shitty games plans and worse offenses than Les Miles.
You have to show some form of a pulse when you play Bama and not be so chicken shite as to go for a FG just to keep from being blanked. I'm glad he missed it.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:44 am to questionable
He seems to recruit coaches better, too, so good luck to everyone else
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:52 am to panterica
Ed's 10-3 or 11-2 record this season will not make the horrible smell of that Bama debacle go away, at least for me. Our schedule sans UGA & Bama was highly overrated, and our D was great against Nick Fitgerald.
Our putrid offensive play & rankings should give Ed some real concern, yet he says our OC is doing an excellent job. What a joke Ed Orgeron is.
Our putrid offensive play & rankings should give Ed some real concern, yet he says our OC is doing an excellent job. What a joke Ed Orgeron is.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:55 am to questionable
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We will NEVER out bid for recruits against Bama while Saban is there
FIFY
Posted on 11/8/18 at 9:33 am to memphis tiger
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Sure Bama may be 1, but the difference between 1 and 6 is not so great.
That is roster talent not recruiting ranking from one year. Yes it is a lot more than you think. Most years Bama is a clear #1. The difference between #1 and #6 could mean 5 more 5 stars or 5 game changers. That's huge. Not to mention they have had like 8 straight #1 classes which makes a huge difference when LSU doesn't have top 5 classes every year
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 9:36 am
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