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re: We have a .500 starting QB, so why all the optimism?

Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:01 am to
Posted by truthbetold
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:01 am to
Solid attempt at a SFP thread
Posted by Tiger 79
The Original Tiger 79
Member since Nov 2007
38747 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:03 am to
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then how can you say this?


Just a feeling.......he would be better out in space than under center.
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:15 am to
JJ is a rahim alem kick ball episode away from being 2-0 as a starter while averaging 34 ppg. While i understand the skepticism, he is our guy and i think he can be as good as matt mauck with his running ability and decision making.
Posted by kennymorgan
Bella Vista, AR
Member since Dec 2005
4728 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:29 am to
I do not think Jefferson has enough previous SEC playing time for anyone to render an emphatic answer to Jefferson's productivity this coming season.

That being said, I think Jefferson has shown in high school and in his brief college experience that he has all the necessary ingredients to become a great QB. He has leadership, good passing ability, great mobility, and that sixth sense to make the big play when needed. That gives me great optimism.

Limited playing time and the toughness of the SEC leaves me cautious of how productive Jefferson will be at the beginning of the season. I look for him to have a game or two early on that he struggles and then the last part of the season to be a stud.

All of this is simply speculation at this time and no one really knows what JJ will do this season. A key to Jefferson's success is that if he truly does struggle in a game or two the fans do not react negatively toward him but give him support. He may have some 'pick six' throws and if the fans react negatively and boo, gripe and complain he could loose confidence and could develop a confidence problem.

I am cautiously optimistic and will give JJ my full support. If he has a game or two that he struggles, I will still give him my full suppport. He is the best option we have a QB. Please do not get me wrong, I like JLee and think he is a class act. JLee may be called upon to play a big role in some games. He will still be one injury away from being a starting QB.
This post was edited on 8/20/09 at 10:35 am
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 10:46 am to
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what many of us would consider a very overrated GT squad.


Why was GT overrated? Oh that right, because LSU crushed them.

Just like when LSU humiliated VT. All of the sudden VT was overrated.
Posted by discip1ine
East Tennessee
Member since Oct 2007
858 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:04 am to
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what many of us would consider a very overrated GT squad.
People are only calling them overrated because we beat the tar out of them.

Really. . .

That's all.

They were world beaters up until kick off.

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What has Jefferson shown you in his minimal experience to make you believe that he is ready to break out this season?
Improvement from one game to the next.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19511 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:07 am to
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overrated GT squad.


The one that beat UGA? oh yeah..

Optimism comes from his play on the field, watch some games. This time last year we had no point of ref. and I, along with other fans, think there's reason to be optimistic. suck balls unless you got something that says we shouldn't.
Posted by Geauxin off
Member since Aug 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:15 am to
I'm not sure it's what he's done, it's more what he hasn't done (ie pick 6)




+1
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33143 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:16 am to
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What has Jefferson shown you in his minimal experience to make you believe that he is ready to break out this season?
He's 10 times better than the other guy, that's all you need to know.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
287971 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:17 am to
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welcome to rouge and lester earls world



im cautiously optimistic


im not going to be stupid about it


and im certainly going to be braced if Jefferson flops
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15277 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:24 am to
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I'm not sure it's what he's done, it's more what he hasn't done (ie pick 6)


LOL. We've had a bunch of unsuccessful QBs over the years who haven't thrown a ton of pick six's. It'll take more than that dude. BTW, I think JJ can do more than just not mess up.
Posted by Geauxin off
Member since Aug 2009
2096 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:28 am to
yes but one of a qb's main jobs is to not lose the game......hard to do that playing catch with the defense.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:29 am to
Kenny, this type of rational analysis is simply not allowed on the Rant.

quote:

That being said, I think Jefferson has shown in high school and in his brief college experience that he has all the necessary ingredients to become a great QB. He has leadership, good passing ability, great mobility, and that sixth sense to make the big play when needed. That gives me great optimism.

Limited playing time and the toughness of the SEC leaves me cautious of how productive Jefferson will be at the beginning of the season. I look for him to have a game or two early on that he struggles and then the last part of the season to be a stud.
Posted by mgmer
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2007
294 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:30 am to
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who does LSU lose to?

georgia, florida, alabama, and ole miss?



Do not overlook Ark that has beat us the last two years.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:32 am to
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Why was GT overrated?


they were overrated because their offense was exposed by a team that had time to prepare. That offense works well during the season because teams never practice for it, it's a once a season challenge for most teams.
Posted by mgmer
Bossier City
Member since Jan 2007
294 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 11:43 am to
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Why was GT overrated? Oh that right, because LSU crushed them.

Just like when LSU humiliated VT. All of the sudden VT was overrated.


Miami, Ohio St, ND, were all overated after we crushed them.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
15277 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 2:30 pm to
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yes but one of a qb's main jobs is to not lose the game......hard to do that playing catch with the defense.


So JJ will be successful because he doesn't throw pick 6's? That's what we're hanging our hat on this season for success? Well, he didn't throw any against Ark. and we lost anyway. Gonna take more than that boys.
Posted by kennymorgan
Bella Vista, AR
Member since Dec 2005
4728 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 2:42 pm to
ForeLSU, I apologize for my indescretion of using logic. I promise I will become more irrational until I can finally blend in unnoticed in this accumulatation of rantards. I pledge dedicating myself to this lofty goal.



Kenny, this type of rational analysis is simply not allowed on the Rant.


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That being said, I think Jefferson has shown in high school and in his brief college experience that he has all the necessary ingredients to become a great QB. He has leadership, good passing ability, great mobility, and that sixth sense to make the big play when needed. That gives me great optimism.

Limited playing time and the toughness of the SEC leaves me cautious of how productive Jefferson will be at the beginning of the season. I look for him to have a game or two early on that he struggles and then the last part of the season to be a stud.
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Posted by King Joey
Just south of the DC/US border
Member since Mar 2004
12719 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 2:43 pm to
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does not make me pessimistic........just being a little more....realistic
That is absolutely not certain. If we go 10-2 or better this year, then your position would absolutely have been a pessimistic one. Until the reality is established, we have no basis for assessing which predictions are pessimistic and which are optimistic in absolute reality.

What we have now are the relative aspects of the predictions made. Those that suggest a better outcome than most are optimistic, and those suggesting worse outcome than most are pessimistic. If you think the reality will most likely be worse than most predictions, then your prediction is most certainly pessimistic.

And btw, why do you describe your prediction as "more realistic"? Are you trying to pretend that you're not calling the optimists wrong?

Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/20/09 at 2:44 pm to
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Gonna take more than that boys.


if jefferson is leading the offense to an average of 34 points a game, that should be enough to win.

if it's not enough to win, then our problem isn't at QB.
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