re: We are retiring the "we are young" stuff for 2 years at least, right?

Depends how many leave early. There is a possibility of losing atleast half our defense.

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let me add. i knew we weren't going to be good this year. i've had issues with the coaches wasting development of our guys and all that, but we weren't going to be good this year

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Yet, you were part of the group that consistently posted that youth is never an excuse and there shouldn't be a reason that this team shouldn't contend.......

At worst imo we lose

Hunter
Rasco
Martin

Q thomas

Altho the jalens may bolt too depending on who they listen to. ..

K Alexander hopefully stays. Bit too small to play lb in the league at the moment.

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you were part of the group that consistently posted that youth is never an excuse and there shouldn't be a reason that this team shouldn't contend.......

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nope. i think youth signals recruiting/developmental failures

but i believe that "youth" should never be a perpetual excuse. this year we get to use the card. we are not good this year, and it is expected.

if we have to use it next year b/c we suck, then that's an issue with more than "youth"

for the record i don't care if we lost 6 games this year, as long as we used this year to develop our young players for next year. that's one reason i was so mad at how our coaches fricked up using the ULM game. we wasted 4 crucial quarters of development. harris, adams, beckwith, LF, etc could have used 3 quarters of live play to work out issues to be more prepared to play today. THAT is the stuff i've had issues with this year with the staff

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nope. i think youth signals recruiting/developmental failures

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You act like no other team has ever had an issue there.

I know you're just going to bring up and compare to Alabama though. So there's that.

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but i believe that "youth" should never be a perpetual excuse

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That's a you problem and you're smarter than that.

Every level of every game, there will be learning curves, growing up, learning systems, learning playbooks, learning defensive schemes.....


Generally, for the most part, college players don't become solid - elite in their first couple of years. Their Jr. years are when these kids turn the corner. To think otherwise, is silly. There ARE kids that grow up sooner, but those kids are the exception, not the rule. To think that LSU is immune to any of this is just being downright intolerant and unfair to those kids on the field.

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i want national titles, though...i don't want to be above mediocre. it's just a different level of hope. sue me for being more positive in my hopes 

if you want to say i'm proclaiming the "sky is falling" b/c we aren't winning titles, then so be it. i can live with that

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Just as naive as the "sunshine pumpers."

It's hard to win a title. Other teams play to win too. What Bama/USC did is very rare. It's certainly a goal, but not having that type of success isn't a failure. Oregon has 0 titles to show from their incredible stretch. TOSU has 1 title from Tressel and Urban. Bowden and Spurrier only got one title each from a decade + of domination. As we well know, (2007, Bama dropping home games in November on the way to titles) you need a great team and a lot of luck to win it all.

Refusal to acknowledge that is incredibly myopic

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i just want everyone calling this year's team young to promise to not use that for 2 years

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So, LSU is 12 hrs. past a pretty important win you thought would never happen and you want to talk as if we are no longer young cause we beat Old Miss???

Most youthful teams have growing pains. We have and I would be surprised if those pains totally went away cause of a big win in TS.