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Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:26 pm to The Boat
Posted on 2/28/16 at 11:46 pm to dreaux
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Over a million for sure.
No. She can't 700 plus bonuses.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 9:24 am to Tigerbait357
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I was waiting for someone to post this. I knew this game would be ugly. They are bigger, faster, great on D.
We give the ball away to everyone as much as the biggest slut in high school.
This probably is our worst team is like two decades. Time to move on. I don't see why she 'deserves' to stick around. The program has been on a steady decline since has has taken over.
2011-12 23-11
2012-13 22-12
2013-14 21-13
2014-15 17-14
2015-16 9-20
It can't get anymore clear with the direction of the program. Enough with the injury excuses, she had injuries her first couple year but due to talent with the last coach left, she managed some good runs.
Now its literally all her players, aside for Pedersen and we are lucky to even be within ten to any SEC opponent. She has not brought in an elite class once. Great hire on paper, don't fault Alleva at all. Didn't work out, time to move on.
That hardly shows a steady decline. Those first four years records are essentially identical. If anything it shows stagnation. But if the university is going to fire her, then it needs to be done immediately after the SEC tournament. Again, I don't believe they're going to fire her. I think think they're going to give her another year, considering all the injuries and Ballard leaving. But we shall see. I'm good either way. If her recruiting improves I think she'll be a good coach. But if not, then it'll pretty much be the same every year.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:14 am to Tigerbait357
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Great hire on paper, don't fault Alleva at all.
I can...UCLA didn't make an attempt to keep her...hell,they probably threw in money. Caldwell was one of PHS top Asst's at UT , and Caldwell never got a sniff when PHS retired...just like most of Aleva's hires, atrocious. Alleva got lucky with Torina, after the Alabama fiasco.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:31 am to OchoDedos
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Great hire on paper, don't fault Alleva at all.
I can...UCLA didn't make an attempt to keep her...hell,they probably threw in money. Caldwell was one of PHS top Asst's at UT , and Caldwell never got a sniff when PHS retired...just like most of Aleva's hires, atrocious. Alleva got lucky with Torina, after the Alabama fiasco.
If you are going to make an argument, at least bring facts and reason to the table. Instead, you come across as part of the "ranter lynch mob" whose answer to everything is "fire somebody". Hate Joe Alleva if you want. Nothing you mention is his fault.
1) UCLA didn't make an attempt to keep her because LSU was basically doubling her salary and they knew they couldn't match LSU's offer...and plus, Caldwell wanted to get closer to home.
2) Caldwell was NOT one of Summitt's top assistants. Summitt's "top assistants" for the most years were Micki DeMoss and Holly Warlick. That job was Warlick's to have, not Nikki's.
3) The Alabama fiasco? You mean the one where Joe Alleva himself reeled in one of the three top names in college softball, only to have the guy flake out and resign? How is that Alleva's fault? Then he didn't "get lucky" with the Torina hire...she was also an up and comer.
Go climb back into your ranter bunker where you belong.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:46 am to LSUGrad9295
Caldwell is a horrible Basketball Coach. Try and spin it any way You want. And, yes, She deserves to be fired. There are 1.2 million reasons.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:55 am to OchoDedos
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Caldwell is a horrible Basketball Coach.
I think most disagree on this point. Give her a team with equal talent to their opponent and she will win more than she loses. However, if you add in "horrible college basketball coach", some may agree to this. Caldwell has been a horrible recruiter at LSU, and if you can't find the players, you can't win in college basketball. Caldwell, for whatever reason, can't bring in the players.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:00 am to Choupique19
serious question: did her getting pregnant and having her kid affect her recruiting? meaning the time and energy it takes to have and raise a kid kept her from focusing her energy on recruiting (which is an incredibly labor intensive part of the job). So once the negative momentum takes hold and her "new hire shine" is gone, the other coaches on the trail negative recruited the hell out of her and she couldn't recover.
Once recruiting starts going south, you have to take kids you otherwise might not and this can blow up in your face. Like it is now.
Once recruiting starts going south, you have to take kids you otherwise might not and this can blow up in your face. Like it is now.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:06 am to lsualum96
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That hardly shows a steady decline. Those first four years records are essentially identical. If anything it shows stagnation. But if the university is going to fire her, then it needs to be done immediately after the SEC tournament. Again, I don't believe they're going to fire her. I think think they're going to give her another year, considering all the injuries and Ballard leaving. But we shall see. I'm good either way. If her recruiting improves I think she'll be a good coach. But if not, then it'll pretty much be the same every year.
She had injuries her first couple years and our record was still fine. Difference was, she had the old coaches talent. This is all her talent. You can't sit there and say Ballard leaving isn't her fault, because it is. She recruited her, and if I am not mistaken, she had a lot of issues coming out of hs. Years 4 and 5, there should definitely be improvement by now. Ever year, our record is worse, and this year is the worst team in two or three decades, so yes, that is steady decline. If anyone had money to bet on, I am sure we all would put money down on someone jumping ship this offseason.
Listen I like her, I think she would be a great coach if she had the talent. The issue is she is having major issues here. Plus it should be a major red flag when your top instate prospects won't consider you. The constant player suspensions, players transferring shows how horrible her recruiting and player management is. I knew losing Ballard, we would have a down year badly but I was willing to give her next year IF she had a great class coming in. Our incoming class is mediocre at best with a post player who is a project and still has ways to go.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 11:26 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:45 am to Tigerbait357
Tigerbait357 
and in 5 years she has a losing record in the SEC, think about where we were and what this means (unlike gym where the top 3 are among top 3 in nation so DD's losing record in sec over 39 years but top 10 or better national ranking is accepted by some)....there are some VERY weak teams in SEC, her highest sec finish was tied for 4th, she needs to be gone this year, I do not know who to bring in, above my paygrade, but its time...Miriam and Joe have to know this and about her lack of positive interaction with 90% of anyone in the LSU sports coaching ranks, and while I also thought it was great hire at time, proof is in the results...
and in 5 years she has a losing record in the SEC, think about where we were and what this means (unlike gym where the top 3 are among top 3 in nation so DD's losing record in sec over 39 years but top 10 or better national ranking is accepted by some)....there are some VERY weak teams in SEC, her highest sec finish was tied for 4th, she needs to be gone this year, I do not know who to bring in, above my paygrade, but its time...Miriam and Joe have to know this and about her lack of positive interaction with 90% of anyone in the LSU sports coaching ranks, and while I also thought it was great hire at time, proof is in the results...
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:51 am to secfballfan
I think we should look at Courtney Banghart of Princeton. Fantastic coach. She even has recruited well considering its Princeton
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:57 am to supatigah
Yes, that time consuming kid stuff AND all the time spent shopping for stiletto heels and designer outfits !
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:10 pm to supatigah
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serious question: did her getting pregnant and having her kid affect her recruiting?
I don't think so. Plenty of coaches have had kids and have done just fine. Nikki seems to have a good support system (husband, mother who is around) to take care of her kid when she needs to be out recruiting.
My bottom line is that I think she is recruiting kids that fit her "style of play"....which is to run a lot, press, and trap. And I am not sure that style can win in this league, which is a bit more physical. I think you have to have at least one "animal" on your team that can get down and dirty on the post, get that big basket when you need it, and get the rebound when you have to have it. And it doesn't have to be Sylvia Fowles, who was a once in 50 years talent.....just someone in that general mold. And we haven't had one of those since......well...Sylvia Fowles.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:12 pm to OchoDedos
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There are 1.2 million reasons.
Her salary is $700,000. Please list the other 500,000 reasons.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:29 pm to secfballfan
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and in 5 years she has a losing record in the SEC
This is misleading.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
In her first four seasons these are her SEC records...
10-6
10-6
7-9
10-6
3-13
So again...........OVERALL yea, you can say she has a losing record in five years. But as you can see, most of those losses are in ONE SEASON. I'm not saying I'm happy with 10-6, but that is the NORM under her. This season is an anomaly.............and as much as many of us don't want to admit it, it's as a result of injuries and removals no one saw coming. This season is an outlier.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:36 pm to LSUGrad9295
I think her style is fine. We dont have elite post players nor consistent guard play. I really like Maryland's style of play. I think that is somewhat what she wants. They push the ball a lot, can hit jumpers. They rebound the ball well and are aggressive on defense. We just don't have the players to run her system at an elite level. Hyder is a good little player but I mean, most of our players struggle shooting open jumpers. They don't have ball skills. They are indecisive in what they are doing. Its also alarming how no one on the team except for Deemer can even be a threat from 3. That makes it so easy to defend us. Just pack it in and make us shoot jumpers all day. Its not like we make them consistently.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:37 pm to lsualum96
lsualum, do we have more injuries than other teams? Was Ballard an injury? You can paint numbers anyway you want, she is also known to be very arrogant and lazy..thus the recruiting issue,
how confident are you she would go 10-6 next year, I would say it is a long shot, so if you want her back fair enough (I disagree) what would you be satisfied with next year?
how confident are you she would go 10-6 next year, I would say it is a long shot, so if you want her back fair enough (I disagree) what would you be satisfied with next year?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:38 pm to LSUGrad9295
My bottom line is that I think she is recruiting kids that fit her "style of play"....which is to run a lot, press,
Yes hit the nail on the nose!
Recruiting kids her style of play people dont realise that
Yes hit the nail on the nose!
Recruiting kids her style of play people dont realise that
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:56 pm to secfballfan
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do we have more injuries than other teams?
This year, yes. Moncrief, Mitchell, Jones, Deemer all being hurt and missing significant time is above and beyond the norm for any team.
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Was Ballard an injury?
Nope. It wasn't. Ballard had some off the court issues. Nikki actually could have kept her and dealt with her all year if she had wanted, but she chose to cut her loose. If you ask me, it takes some balls to cut your SEC Player of the Year candidate unless you absolutely have to.
Also, how can Amichia leaving school abruptly in October to go home be automatically attributed to the coach?
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she is also known to be very arrogant and lazy.
I hear this a lot. It seems to be one of those things that someone saw once on a message board and just ran with. Cite some examples of what you are talking about.
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how confident are you she would go 10-6 next year,
I am very confident we hit 10-6 or better next year. I like the lineup of Moncrief, Jackson, Neubert, Mitchell, and Hyder, with plenty of bench players who got experience this year.
If she can't show great progress and make the tournament next year, then it's time to part ways. I don't think the cupboard is as empty as some of you make it out to be.
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