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re: Wade puts job, millions on line if he continues to decline to meet with LSU officials
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:21 pm to TOKEN
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:21 pm to TOKEN
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LSU says, Wades in breach of contract already by not speaking to them and have started this 10 day clock that’s in the contract according to the article.
my take is LSU is trying to coerce Wade to talk to them about what's going on, which is required in his contract. LSU has a duty to act in the interests of LSU, not Will Wade. If his contract provides he do certain things that may have an adverse effect on the advice of his attorneys, then he certainly has a choice to make. If he feels that he has nothing to hide, then he should likely, at this point, speak to LSU about the situation before the 10 day period runs. If he does have something to hide, he needs to decide if he's willing to put his livelihood on the line. He's been backed into a corner somewhat and the ball is effectively in his court. My thoughts are that there is likely more to the story than what the media has portrayed but the actual truth of the story is still not good for Wade's future as a basketball coach.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:33 pm
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Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:21 pm to Srobi14
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10m is nothing compared to the value this guy can bring if they find a way to keep him.
That’s a bit optimistic. You are assuming everything goes back to normal but I suspect the NCAA would have a major problem with Wade being at LSU. How about recruits?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:22 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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cause existed the moment Wade refused to meet with them when requested concerning this matter
Then LSU needs to fire him. That’s what WW asked for today. Fire me or reinstate me.
What is LSU waiting on? What is the point of the suspension? It’s been 6.5 days.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:23 pm to GeorgeReymond
They haven’t fired him because of the 10 day period from the original request before they can. They have to wait until Sunday at least before they can fire him. If they do that and fire him on selection Sunday it’ll be anarchy, so likely he gets canned on Monday.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:25 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:24 pm to lsufball19
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lsufball19
Is Wade in breach of contract right now?
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:24 pm to TOKEN
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Naw this was over the minute that meeting was canceled.
I think it was over the minute the second story leaked, but that's kind of splitting hairs since they're interrelated. I think Wade thought after the first leak, like most of us, that if that's all they have then they have nothing. The second story had a lot more teeth, and that's when Wade went into self preservation mode.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:27 pm to TOKEN
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Is Wade in breach of contract right now?
Well, if the article is accurate about the language in his contract, then I guess not yet. They tried to schedule the first meeting last Thursday. So I guess count 10 days from last Thursday and they'd, in theory, have cause to fire him without pay if he doesn't meet with them before then. I'm somewhat relieved that provision is in there because, at this point, I just want this to come to an end. I don't want to listen to this back and forth nonsense through April.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:27 pm to lsufball19
How about if Smarts cleared then so is Wade?
I’m not buying this but it’s an argument being made? Difference is Smart cooperated with the investigation imo
I’m not buying this but it’s an argument being made? Difference is Smart cooperated with the investigation imo
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:27 pm to TOKEN
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Is Wade in breach of contract right now?
Technically, yes, but the SDNY thing adds an interesting twist that would make that very debatable in court.
Wade’s attorney will certainly argue that it was not a reasonable request to meet and talk given the extraordinary circumstances.
Both sides have very good arguments IMO.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:28 pm to GumboPot
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It’s been 6.5 days.
Well, if the contract requires 10 days, then they can;t fire him with cause yet.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:31 pm to TOKEN
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How about if Smarts cleared then so is Wade?
Not necessarily. Wade would have committed a major violation just by negotiating improper benefits, even if payment is never made. If Smart didn't actually receive improper benefits and had nothing to do with any of the negotiations, then he wouldn't be ineligible, in theory. Typically, if there is no paper trial of pay for play, then the NCAA has issues carrying that burden that offers were made. But, in this case, which is almost unprecedented, we have a coach on wire tap possibly (note I said possibly because we don't know all the details of the tape yet) admitting to negotiating improper benefits.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:34 pm to Madking
I’m basically resigned to the fact that Wade is done. I see no avenue to reconciliation. I hope he finds an assistant coaching job in the NBA or G Leauge and advances from there. College coaching is so much more difficult than the pros.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:35 pm to JPLSU1981
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Technically, yes, but the SDNY thing adds an interesting twist that would make that very debatable in court.
Wade’s attorney will certainly argue that it was not a reasonable request to meet and talk given the extraordinary circumstances.
Both sides have very good arguments IMO.
I think both sides have damn good arguments on this point. Whoever has drawn up the contract will make sure this point is iron clad in the future.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:36 pm to lsufball19
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Well, if the contract requires 10 days, then they can;t fire him with cause yet.
I was responding to the other guy who said cause was met the day Wade did not show up for the meeting (Friday).
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:36 pm to GumboPot
You know if he ends up being caught doing something illegal as much as I love what he’s done here he should be fired. My problem is the way it’s been handled, the lying from our admin and the folding to media pressure. LSU has put themselves in this position by overreacting and taking action based on unconfirmed rumor. That’s what’s so frustrating.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:40 pm
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:38 pm to Madking
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You know if he ends up being caught doing something illegal as much as I love what he’s done here he should be fired. My problem is the way it’s been handled and the folding to media pressure. LSU has put themselves in this position by overreacting and taking action based on unconfirmed rumor. That’s what’s so frustrating.
I agree 100%.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:44 pm to Madking
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You know if he ends up being caught doing something illegal as much as I love what he’s done here he should be fired. My problem is the way it’s been handled and the folding to media pressure. LSU has put themselves in this position by overreacting and taking action based on unconfirmed rumor. That’s what’s so frustrating.
Maybe LSU knows more than we do. And if people were completely honest with the situation, which is hard for a lot of people to come to terms with because of how good Wade has been here, I think they would admit that Wade put LSU in a really precarious position with the story that leaked last week. LSU didn't leak the story and Will Wade shouldn't have been having whatever conversation he was with Dawkins. I just don't see how LSU can be faulted for wanting to investigate the matter and then blamed for suspending Wade for not complying with terms outlined in his contract and for LSU complying with NCAA bylaws to investigate potential violations. I just don't know if I can call it an overreaction without more information that we don't have.
The thing I fault LSU and Will Wade for was having all the lawyer posturing in the media. That was highly unprofessional on the part of both parties and something that neither side should have made a public spectacle. Now both sides look even worse than they did before.
Posted on 3/14/19 at 11:51 pm to lsufball19
It’s been extremely hard on this fan base. But realistically, for LSU to land these incredible recruits out of the clear blue sky was beyond a dream, it was a miracle. I always thought in the back of my mind something was up and it really didn’t dawn on many fans until the first leak occurred. The NCAA was also investigating Wade for recruiting methods going back to his VCU days. Still, I didn’t care and thought there was no guarantee we would be as good as we became this year.
This post was edited on 3/14/19 at 11:53 pm
Posted on 3/15/19 at 12:04 am to lsufball19
If they know more then why are they lying about this too? And why haven’t they acted if there’s more and obvious wrong doing? The admin has fed the public lie after lie since last Friday. How can anyone trust anything they say at this point?
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