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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:20 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:20 pm to
what's even scarier is the fans who think this is some elaborate plot to get jordan jefferson kicked off the team.

c'mon people. wake the frick up.
Posted by c on z
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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I can't believe you're still posting.


You know when someone is deeply invested in this.
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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Oh but wait, the employees who didn't watch the fight are sure JJ wasn't in it. They didn't see who was in it but they definitely saw that JJ wasn't. Why would you believe employees(vested interest to the football players) who didn't see the fight over neutral witnesses 10 feet away from them?(and yes they are neutral. Believe it or not, some people at Shady's that night didn't like Lowery better than LSU football


What I find funny about the whole Shady's employees thing, is that while they've told the media what they claim to have seen, apparently none of them have voluntarily come forward to the police to make any statements to THEM about what they saw.

It's one thing to tell the media something... but if you're gonna make an official statement to the police, you'd better be telling the truth.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to


It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress.

Who did the kicking? Man in black or Jacob?
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 9:22 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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I can't believe you're still posting.



frick off
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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Sure sound like he wasn't involved, at least from Neldare's standpoint.


ehy not quote all of what Neldare said....I'll wait.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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Neldare said he saw Jefferson at one point "standing by himself and looking upset while the fight was still taking place."

which means nothing

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I dunno.
clearly. how could you?
Posted by denvertiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:21 pm to
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They said JJ didn't start it, not that he didn't kick.


In all fairness, one of them said that JJ was standing idly by, looking upset, while the fight was going on. They also give a very different account of "the truck" that some kid was supposed to have been pulled from and savagely beaten.
Posted by rmcc316
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:22 pm to
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BRPD will come up with a 2nd Shirt Theory!


Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:22 pm to
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It's an interesting theory, but there's one big hole in it: if the kicker WASN'T a football player, I'd think the probability is a lot higher that SOMEONE on the football team would step forward to rat the culprit out...especially if it were to save JJ's neck.


Again...just for shits and giggles...what if the kicker isn't a player and wasn't even part of their party? Not every black guy at the bar that night was a player I'd guess. what if he's simply an a-hole who decided he wanted to get involved and walked int and kicked a guy on the ground and none of the players know who it was, or even bothered to notice in all the fracas? That gets you to JJ not being the kicker, no player being the kicker, and no player id'ing the kicker.

Like I said, it's more likely given that players were involved in the fight that it was a player...but I does bother me when we see here that it HAD TO BE one, when it clearly did not.
Posted by Sir Barkevious
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Member since Dec 2009
1974 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:22 pm to
You go from saying this a few days ago
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This video will be compared with other video, such as camera phones from inside the bar and security camera footage of the players. Match up the clothes, match the players. It's not that complicated. The shitty video is important, but not as a primary video. If that makes sense. ...


To saying the video is completely irrelevant.
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:23 pm to
Do u dumb asses realize that there is someone in a white shirt that kicks the guy prior to the guy in all black??

Just making sure


Posted by denvertiger
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:23 pm to
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clearly. how could you?


No one can. That's the most awesome part of this f'ing bullshite. Drunk assholes at a bar giving accounts of shite they think happened.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:24 pm to
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that is the only person in the video that i see could possibly be JJ and i didn't see that guy kick anyone (punch or push, yes. kick, no)

I can see some punching or pushing motion, cannot really see a kick, but also can't see a lack of a kick either.

If that makes sense.
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:24 pm to
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one of them said that JJ was standing idly by, looking upset, while the fight was going on
that could be a misinterpretation. regret for something he did or disgust at the violence. who knows?
Posted by Cecil D Diesel
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:25 pm to


Look at the color of the pants of JJ inside the bar, as opposed to the possible kicker 2.
Posted by bree
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:25 pm to
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that is the only person in the video that i see could possibly be JJ and i didn't see that guy kick anyone (punch or push, yes. kick, no)


the person in the video appears to have a hat on JJ did not have a hat on in the bar or did it appear he had one with him
Posted by manwich
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:25 pm to
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I can see some punching or pushing motion, cannot really see a kick, but also can't see a lack of a kick either.

If that makes sense.

exactly, no evidence either way.

he could be preventing an attack or getting in a cheap shot. the video shows nothing
Posted by rmcc316
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:26 pm to
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JJ in Grey. Kicker 1 is in black. Possible kicker 2 is in white.


the shirt worn by JJ in da club looks to be baggier and longer than the shirt worn by possible kicker #2.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 9:27 pm to
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n all fairness, one of them said that JJ was standing idly by, looking upset, while the fight was going on.


Then they go on to say: they can't say whether JJ was involved or not.
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