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re: Video Inside Shady's Before Fight on Ch. 8 (w/Links)UPDATED

Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:10 pm to
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But the marine at least.. has been caught in some lies and has zero credibility right now.



And according to JJ's dad, so has JJ.

Remember? What fight, I wasn't around for any fight.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:11 pm to
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Although even the media was reporting that the video was of Lowery.


And there in lies the problem. Everyone is taking everything the media claims with way too much weight. Nothing said to the media can be held against the person making the claims. Same goes for the Shady's employees. Until the give a statement to the cops, they can't be held accountable for obstruction of justice.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:12 pm
Posted by scottyblsu
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2008
47 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:11 pm to
First of all does BRPD crime lab do there own DNA testing. Probably not, it would be taken to a lab that does testing for BRPD and others. They also would take more than 1 sample to be tested just in case one is not pure or they cannot extract a DNA from 1 of the samples. The cost for doing a test is costly and 72 hour turn around is highly unlikely.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:11 pm to
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Although even the media was reporting that the video was of Lowery.




person on the ground in the video is not wearing this shirt
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:12 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75836 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:12 pm to
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lowery is not that one being shown kicked in that video


I can't make much of anything out in that video, which I why I haven't really commented on it thus far, but I think you are right about this.

Which makes me ask, are we sure Lowery actually got kicked?
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49047 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:13 pm to
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Which makes me ask, are we sure Lowery actually got kicked?


The fact that its not him in the video may actually be worse for his case.

Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:13 pm to
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He also denied being in the bar.
No, he didn't.
quote:

This video shows he was in the bar and belligerent towards a girl. It will also be entered into evidence his ex filed a restrainer order after this night.
Zero (0) of which is relevant to the fight.
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Lowery has about zero credibility as he's been caught in a lie.
No, he has not.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130370 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:14 pm to
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I can't make much of anything out in that video,


I thought I saw a spot where the shirt was white. I guess that doesn't matter though.
Posted by Sir Barkevious
Florence, Italy
Member since Dec 2009
1974 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:14 pm to
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TheDoc

How in the hell can you tell what kind of shirt he is wearing from the video? You must have super vision because I can barely make anything out.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:14 pm to
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but I think you are right about this.


I'm pretty sure I am too

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Which makes me ask, are we sure Lowery actually got kicked?



he got beat the hell down, that's for sure
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:15 pm to
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No, I'm asking specifically which players are implicated by that video. Do you have an answer?


Thats not my point. Players were involved in a fight. The players know who was involved. Most of the players are getting off without a penalty. The video doesn't prove they did the kicking, but they were definitely involved in a fight.
Posted by denvertiger
Golden
Member since Feb 2007
4487 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:16 pm to
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Zero (0) of which is relevant to the fight.


Actually, might be relevant depending on what really happened out in the parking lot. And the video doesn't do much for this douche's impending civil case.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75836 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:16 pm to
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he got beat the hell down, that's for sure


Yes, but if he threw the first punch, as has been stated, and got beat down, but wasn't kicked in the head while on the ground, defenseless, it certainly changes things.

eta: I tried really hard to make that into more than one sentence. Sadly, I could not.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 8:17 pm
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:16 pm to
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The fact that its not him in the video may actually be worse for his case.


people need to forget about the videos

the videos are useless

none of us know what evidence the PD has
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65123 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:17 pm to
I can't tell anything, either. I can't pick out a single person. I can see a guy in black kick the guy on the ground, and that there's a girl right there, but no distinguishable feature to ID anyone, from either side. Worthless IMO.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7710 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:19 pm to
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Thats not my point. Players were involved in a fight. The players know who was involved. Most of the players are getting off without a penalty. The video doesn't prove they did the kicking, but they were definitely involved in a fight.

So which players need to be punished based on that video? Forget the kicking aspect, can anyone really point out a single LSU player in that video?

Posted by Dijkstra
Michael J. Fox's location in time.
Member since Sep 2007
8745 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:20 pm to
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USMCTiger03


Oh, it's a Marine! He's defending another Marine who, in fact, lying. fricking surprising.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:21 pm to
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And according to JJ's dad, so has JJ.

Remember? What fight, I wasn't around for any fight.



Lying on police report != lying to daddy
Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
11536 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:22 pm to
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So which players need to be punished based on that video? Forget the kicking aspect, can anyone really point out a single LSU player in that video?


The video doesn't matter. It doesn't really change anything.
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
71176 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 8:22 pm to
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Actually, might be relevant depending on what really happened out in the parking lot.
Let me rephrase: there is presently little or no evidence that anything that happened in the bar was relevant to anything outside. The video shows Lowery and Jefferson oblivious to each other.
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And the video doesn't do much for this douche's impending civil case.
A video of a guy arguing with an ex girlfriend? That will be a tough voir dire then.
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