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re: USA Today new story on mishandling of misconduct complaints against athletes
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:05 pm to Mithridates6
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:05 pm to Mithridates6
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“I don’t want to be that girl that everyone looks at and says, ‘Oh, she’s lying,’ ” the woman said. “Also, I was kind of scared to go forward with it because he was so violent.”
The nurse’s response reaffirmed to the woman that, even if she made a complaint to LSU, nothing would come of it.
“He’s like a god around here,” the woman recalled the nurse, an LSU employee, saying. “It probably would get pushed under the rug.”
I got six downvotes for this post, but no one will argue that a fricking nurse telling an alleged victim that Guice was "like a god around here" in 2016 when he was Robin to Fournette's Batman is plausible
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:13 pm to MrWiseGuy
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At least seven LSU officials had direct knowledge that wide receiver Drake Davis was physically abusing his girlfriend, a different LSU women’s tennis player, but they sat on the information for months, while Davis continued to assault and strangle her
not blame the the victim but could she not leave if he assaulted/strangled her? The way this is phrased makes it seem like she has no agency not to excuse the officials or POS Drake. If someone assaulted my daughter it would only happen once, a 2nd attempt and USA Today would be running a story about a football that was murdered by angry father.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:24 pm to Mithridates6
I read you're post and laughed about how oblivious you are. Your post just shows that the accusers apprehension to come forward in fear of being called a liar is exactly correct.
And I can understand why someone would think that Leonard Fournette's obviously talented heir apparent is "like a god around here". And I can also understand that someone would say "it probably would get pushed under the rug". Nurse might as well have been Nostradamus.
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IMO the first accuser with Guice is full of shite. The second may be as well considering she was kicked of the team for drugs and her coach didn't believe her. From the first accuser. Guice was most definitely not "like a god around here" in 2016. It's a bs story and cop out
And I can understand why someone would think that Leonard Fournette's obviously talented heir apparent is "like a god around here". And I can also understand that someone would say "it probably would get pushed under the rug". Nurse might as well have been Nostradamus.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:33 pm to Fenwick86
quote:What I don't get, in this day and age, is why a woman (and a nurse) would just ASSUME nothing is going to happen and thus not report it to Title IX and/or at least the local prosecutor.
And I can understand why someone would think that Leonard Fournette's obviously talented heir apparent is "like a god around here". And I can also understand that someone would say "it probably would get pushed under the rug". Nurse might as well have been Nostradamus.
It's the football equivalent of assuming you are going to lose so you put all your equipment in a Goodwill donation box and spend all your cash on solo cups and vodka.
And that's not a fear of retaliation. That's just an assumption. As the saying goes, the only way to guarantee failure is to not try. Well, not saying a damn thing is a good way to guarantee it does get swept under the rug.
And doesn't the nurse, under ethics and license law, have a duty to report it regardless? Is she excused because her and the victim agreed on the same assumptions? That's the definition of a cover up, by the nurse, by violating ethics and duties to ensure it doesn't come to light (which was the Net Effect of the nurse's actions).
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:35 pm to Fenwick86
Pigskin prognosticator nurses are among us! A backup RB is most definitely the big man on campus when the starter is being hyped as a Heisman candidate. Learn new things every day
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:36 pm to I20goon
It's a transparent cop-out story for her not reporting rape immediately bc she was probably having regret for sleeping with him. I can imagine that journalist salivating at the storyline "red-state, small town yokels care more about foosball than protecting womxn!"
This post was edited on 11/16/20 at 6:44 pm
Posted on 11/16/20 at 6:41 pm to Mithridates6
quote:and that is the only logical explanation for the [in]actions of the nurse. When I saw that on the first story about Guice a few months ago I struggled with wrapping my head around that whole incident.
It's a perfect cop-out story for her not reporting immediately. That's it. End.
The nurse isn't a compassionate soul empathizing with the victim- she's the initial problem (assuming she's truly the first person to hear of the accusations).
A cop-out is the only explanation. And, I might add, an explanation that our intrepid reporters CHOSE to overlook because once you discard the obvious, that's all that is left.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:01 pm to I20goon
FYI this story is now a cause celebre for SJWs. It's a wet dream for them, like the Rolling Stone UVA hoax or Duke lacrosse. I'm guessing the ending will be similar to those two
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:30 pm to Mithridates6
You seem mad people are now taking this seriously
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:39 pm to Lester Earl
I'd argue that everyone who was actually charged being suspended and leaving or kicked off the team evinces "taking it seriously"
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:45 pm to Mithridates6
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I can imagine that journalist salivating at the storyline "red-state, small town yokels care more about foosball than protecting womxn!"
Yeah i wonder where'd they get that idea from.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:53 pm to tigre704
It's a liberal wet dream, they fantasize about being self-righteous, even-handed dispensers of law unlike those icky rednecks with their foosball
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Jacob Phillips was never charged and Davon Godchaux was suspended until he was cleared. Ray Parker is suspended indefinitely. USAToday claimed that these players were not disciplined or that they had no knowledge of it. Tae Provens was off the team when he was arrested. My journalism 101 prof would've told me the story was unpublishable
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:56 pm to Mithridates6
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argue that everyone who was actually charged being suspended and leaving or kicked off the team evinces "taking it seriously"
So hypothetically if you rape 4 people, get caught & prosecuted on the 4th one, everyone is vindicated since you’re finally caught ?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 7:59 pm to DEG
Exactly, dating violence? Is that part of dating etiquette?
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:00 pm to MrWiseGuy
It's odd that the article is saying LSU didn't do enough, but Peter Parrish was suing LSU at one point for unfair treatment over how they handled his case. It seems LSU was in a tough spot either way.
Guice was around long enough that I think people probably started to see that he had some major issues. If they didn't do anything when given information on him, then they didn't do him or anyone he was involved with any favors. Look at him now. He's done. But from reading the article, it pretty much said it wasn't just better treatment for athletes. It seems to be an issue with their overall policy for certain accusations.
Guice was around long enough that I think people probably started to see that he had some major issues. If they didn't do anything when given information on him, then they didn't do him or anyone he was involved with any favors. Look at him now. He's done. But from reading the article, it pretty much said it wasn't just better treatment for athletes. It seems to be an issue with their overall policy for certain accusations.
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:15 pm to Lester Earl
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So hypothetically if you rape 4 people, get caught & prosecuted on the 4th one, everyone is vindicated since you’re finally caught ?
I'm not sure how you can possibly think that's a good analogy
Btw one or the USAToday authors hosts a "feminist sports podcast" and lives in Austin. This is the UVA hoax all over
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Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:20 pm to MrWiseGuy
USATODAY...judge-jury and executioner
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:25 pm to Mithridates6
It’s good enough to where you can’t answer it
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:26 pm to Lester Earl
This is Duke Lacrosse all over again and you know it. Thankfully Alleva isn't around to return to his own vomit like a dog
Posted on 11/16/20 at 8:29 pm to Mithridates6
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This is the UVA hoax all over
That story was a complete fabrication. Here we have multiple players kicked off the team and or arrested.
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Btw one or the USAToday authors hosts a "feminist sports podcast" and lives in Austin.
So? You are clearly biased as your own contradictory statements show. You aren’t even judging cases on their merits but rather your own partisan preferences
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