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re: Updated: ESPN reports TM7 wants to stay; nola.com says not so fast
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:20 am to the LSUSaint
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:20 am to the LSUSaint
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YES IT DOES! You can't take a redshirt at a school if your scholly is revoked and you want to avoid suspensions
You lose the year if it is due to an NCAA suspension, not a school suspension.
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:20 am to Brettesaurus Rex
its not even a one year ban from ncaa schools if he can play at mcneese.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:21 am to bcwarb
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Don't know if possible or applies but could TOPS help and him just walk-on next year?
The money is the least problematic part of this situation. It is also the easiest to take care of.
Sources are reporting that Raph Rhymes is giving his scholarship to the badger
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:21 am to heartbreakTiger
I don't think he is suspended from LSU just off the team. Might be wrong. If suspended he would not be eligible to play at ANY NCAA school FBS or FCS. He can sit and reapply.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:22 am to TIGERVATO
If it's "permanent ineligibility" then damn. Him wanting to come back after a year sounds like the best course of action for all involved. Who here really agrees that permanent dismissal is a valid punishment for a college kid who smokes weed?
One year is more than enough. If he comes back and passes drug tests, it shows he learned his lesson - and isn't that the point?
One year is more than enough. If he comes back and passes drug tests, it shows he learned his lesson - and isn't that the point?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:23 am to 10888bge
not being able to play at ncaa schools was if he failed a ncaa drug test 3 times.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:25 am to LSUfan4444
I agree that people shouldn't assume so much but this one is pretty simple. It's a team policy, meaning he was stripped of his team membership. The coaches decide player scholarships and the university pays accordingly. When he is kicked off the team, the university doesn't pay for his scholarship. They don't kick him out of school. Pretty simple, really.
Btw....kicking a kid out of school for smoking weed would definitely be bad for almost every university.
Btw....kicking a kid out of school for smoking weed would definitely be bad for almost every university.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:25 am to heartbreakTiger
Exactly. He has no NCAA violations against him. Not a NCAA suspension so he can play at a FCS school then xfer to FBS. If he is suspended from school he can't play anywhere. No FBS/FCS. SO therefor LSU did not suspend him.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:26 am to 10888bge
It seems to me that LSU had already drawn a line in the sand BEFORE this last screw-up....."Look, you've used up all your chances...If you screw up again, you're out of here for good...No suspension, etc, you're gone."
He screwed up again, and LSU/Miles/Alleva stood by their word and aren't caving, even though it appears TM has a desire to return to LSU in any way possible, even if it means sitting out an entire season.
People can say give him another chance if he gets his act straight, but that rests on the assumption that he has any "chances" left in the minds of Alleva/Miles.
I think it'd be great if he came back in 2013 after sitting out a year and getting clean, but then again we don't know everything about the past and how much leeway/chances they had already given him.
He screwed up again, and LSU/Miles/Alleva stood by their word and aren't caving, even though it appears TM has a desire to return to LSU in any way possible, even if it means sitting out an entire season.
People can say give him another chance if he gets his act straight, but that rests on the assumption that he has any "chances" left in the minds of Alleva/Miles.
I think it'd be great if he came back in 2013 after sitting out a year and getting clean, but then again we don't know everything about the past and how much leeway/chances they had already given him.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 11:29 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:27 am to 10888bge
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:28 am to adammwilson
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not sure how reliable this guy is.
The article quotes a "source" close to Mathieu. Josh Jasper is also close to Mathieu and is a "source" and hes (wrongly) stated that Mathieu already transferred to McNeese.
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Josh Jasper ?@JoshJasper30
@TM7_Era already transferred to McNeese! Staying in the boot #LA
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:28 am to 10888bge
Yep. This is completely a team policy issue. He has not been suspended by the NCAA or the university. He was kicked off team. What it really boils down to is whether or not the team policy states and truly means that you can never play at LSU again after being kicked off the team.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:29 am to BayouTiger67
Just remember this. Public opinion rules at LSU. I think if there is a big enough uproar over this, and thats a big IF, change or a second chance may be in the cards. Its a long shot but i can still hope dammit.
Bubble is still intact.
Bubble is still intact.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:29 am to JPLSU1981
id be miles is alot more willing than alleva to allow tm7 back if he proves himself. Thats just going off their personal histories
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:29 am to dagrippa
Yeah, it's called "research"
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:30 am to LSU Patrick
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What it really boils down to is whether or not the team policy states and truly means that you can never play at LSU again after being kicked off the team.
Wasn't Jefferson kicked off the team?
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:31 am to heartbreakTiger
Tru HBT. I think TM7 will have to prove it to Alleva to get any momentum on his side in rejoining the team. Like I said public opinion hold a ridiculous amount of sway at LSU also.
ETA *also
ETA *also
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:31 am to C
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Wasn't Jefferson kicked off the team?
No.
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:32 am to heartbreakTiger
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id be miles is alot more willing than alleva to allow tm7 back if he proves himself. Thats just going off their personal histories
I agree....Alleva probably approaches it with a black/white (no grey area) business decision. Miles probably is more interested in the human aspect of it all and helping a young guy get his act straight in a father-son personal redemption kind of way.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 11:33 am
Posted on 8/13/12 at 11:32 am to therick711
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Sources are reporting that Raph Rhymes is giving his scholarship to the badger
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