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re: Uninformed or plained stupid when it come to Jayden Daniels

Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:26 am to
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6846 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:26 am to
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As a 3 year starter at ASU, Daniels threw for 6,024 yds, 32 Tds, 13 ints and completed over 64 percent of his passes. But many on here has label him as a running Qb and even compared him to Jordan Jefferson. Nuss started 1 game and looked completely lost in that 1 game and after he and dad publicly called for him to start against Arkansas they declined to let start or even play in the bowl game leaving LSU without a Qb. But yet many of you are calling for Nuss to be the starting Qb despite having no experience and last season theatrics. As usual there are always a hidden agenda, an unlining reason why but rather than state the obvious they would rather throw a rock and try to hide their hands


I look at what he done last year as most important because it's the most recent. 2019 he had a good year but that was almost 3 years ago. It seems he has regressed since then.

Joe Burrow and Ed Orgeron was at LSU winning national championship in 2019.

My point is alot changes in 3 years.
Burrow becomes a #1 draft pick and Ed Orgeron gets fired from LSU in that time span.


It doesn't seem like he is getting better and some players don't get better from year to year, some do

Just have to wait and see I reckon.


As far as trying to bag on Nuss. He threw 2 Td and 2 INT..he did look bad at times but that was his first ever start as a freshman.

Sometimes it takes time for a QB to get acclimated to the speed of starting. Took Mettenberger awhile to get started. In 2018 took Burrow a little while to get going but once he did we were unstoppable at times.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:29 am
Posted by Tigersonfire
Pville
Member since Oct 2018
3027 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:27 am to
JD had worse stats in the PAC 10’a worse years in decades. Save the he was on a shite team. So was Max Johnson another sub par qb and Max had better stats. I don’t care who wins the job I’ll cheer them on but some of the shite y’all are saying to make “your guy” look good is simply just plain stupid which also makes your choice look dumb.
Posted by TigerZo17
Member since Oct 2018
346 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:28 am to
I agree….
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:29 am to
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As a 3 year starter at ASU, Daniels threw for 6,024 yds, 32 Td


These stats mean nothing. He had a great 2019 when he threw to 3 NFL drafted WRs and had an NFL RB running the ball.

2900 yards, 17/2 TD/INT 60% completion.

He hasn't had the best roster around him last year (2020 doesn't count with 5 games)

I believe that this LSU roster is closer to that 2019 ASU roster than the 2021 roster. I think he'll be just fine with BK and Boutte/Bech/Nabors/Hilton/Emery/Cain.

Also, looking at Moscona practice tweets (videos, not Matt's opinion) it seems like JD is throwing better balls.
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:54 am
Posted by ThurlNoonkester
Member since Jun 2022
439 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:31 am to
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Davidg318


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plained stupid


Correct
Posted by mkemp0113
Member since Dec 2007
1200 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:33 am to
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As usual there are always a hidden agenda, an unlining reason

Pathetic trash. What exactly is the "unlining reason" people here would fight someone over Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Rohan Davey, CEH, OBJ, PP7, TM7, Kevin Faulk, Marcus Spears, Booger - the list could go on and on. GTFO with your racial bullshite and go get help for your shallow, devisive crutch.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6846 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:34 am to
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Also, looking at Moscona practice tweets it seems like JD is throwing better balls.



So I guess the media during the spring when they said Nuss had a better Spring and was probably ahead going into fall was lieing that because we didn't hear it from BK was a lie but the quote above is supposed to be the gospel.

FOH
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:36 am
Posted by Davidg318
West Monroe
Member since Mar 2021
47 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:36 am to
I've been a LSU fan since 1977, I have supported LSU and not a Coach, Player and certainly not a RACE. Since Jayden Daniels transferred to LSU everyday I read the comments which were basically not what a true fan would say. The bottom line is this, JD is the most experienced Qb on the roster and I am still having problems with Nuss abandoning the team in the bowl game after he and his father publicly called out O stating they wasn't concerned about losing the Redshirt only to preserve it in the bowl game. As far as I am concerned after JD it should be Howard, let the Nuss show return to Texas
Posted by RussellSheppardsPie
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2018
2013 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:36 am to
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So I guess the media during the spring when they said Nuss had a better Spring and was probably ahead going into fall was lieing that because we didn't from BK was a lie nut the quote above is supposed to be the gospel.


Wut?
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:37 am to
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Probably LSU's history with DT QBs.

Guys.. relax.. we have offensive coaches who know what they are doing now. JD is going to absolutely ball out with all of these playmakers. Hes never had this kinda of talent and coaching
Seems that way. It is BOTH this board's and LSU's (fanbase) history with DT QBs.

And they are intertwined because as DT QBs went past coaches recruited "dual threat" QBs that weren't really good runners. So when they couldn't produce as a DT QB, because they weren't, it created a history on this board.

Count me as one of them. I'm scarred by the thought of a "DT QB at LSU". However, my "therapy" for this "QB-PTSD" is the fact that Daniels, unlike in the past, actually has wheels and has proved it on the game field.

So it is different than our recent history- for good or bad. But this time is different than in the past; which means our assumptions are out the window but a whole new set of questions arise. We should forget the history and the QB-PTSD and focus on those new questions. Which the coaches are in the process of answering (for themselves) right now. Additionally since that history is no longer applicable the mistakes of past coaches with DT QBs are also not applicable.
Posted by Davidg318
West Monroe
Member since Mar 2021
47 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:37 am to
It's not my fault that your mom is also your sister!!!
Posted by APHA
Corpus Christi
Member since Mar 2013
540 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:38 am to
Three years at 2000 yds a year? LSU will be last in the west with that output. Simple math.
Posted by boweswi05
birmingham
Member since Aug 2016
6846 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:39 am to
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Wut?



From most all accounts Nuss had a better Spring than Jayden or Myles according to the media.
I was told yesterday that it was bullshite because we didn't hear was ahead from BK didn't mean shite.


So media is now tweeting Daniels is looking good so I guess that doesn't mean shite either right?
Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6577 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:39 am to
Maybe just maybe, Daniels is the guy that transferred from another program so he is the outsider and the other QB's have been here since day one and that plays into the doubt. Not every fricking thing is about race!!
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
57941 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:39 am to
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guess the media during the spring when they said Nuss had a better Spring



Pretty well known the coaching staff was working with JD on his footwork in the spring.

quote:

was probably ahead going into fall was lieing



By all accounts he was ahead. JD had also been here 2 days before spring practice started. It was well documented that JD worked hard this summer to get on the same page as his WRs (cali trip ring a bell).

Sure Nuss was ahead after spring but JD apparently did the work to close the gap. IMO it was/is neck and neck going into fall camp where 1 small ankle sprain may decide the winner.

That being said Nuss still has a chance to seize the job. Time is getting short tho
This post was edited on 8/16/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by Davidg318
West Monroe
Member since Mar 2021
47 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:40 am to
You idiot ASU only played 4 games in 2020
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:41 am to
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And the OP is 50 years too late to the "black QB" party. That may have been a thing 50+ years ago, but the entire nation has moved far, far, far beyond that.

LSU fans loved Herb Tyler, Jamarcus Russell, and Rohan Davey. Why? Because they were good.

We didn't like Brandon Harris and Anthony Jennings. Why? Because they were bad.

No other reason.


What racist would be a fan of the game of football given the demographics of the players? Whenever racism is totted out, I can't help but laugh.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:43 am to
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By all accounts he was ahead. JD had also been here 2 days before spring practice started. It was well documented that JD worked hard this summer to get on the same page as his WRs (cali trip ring a bell).

Sure Nuss was ahead after spring but JD apparently did the work to close the gap. IMO it was/is neck and neck going into fall camp where 1 small ankle sprain may decide the winner.

That being said Nuss still has a chance to seize the job. Time is getting short tho
Indeed. On all accounts.

Daniels looks much better mechanically and in the passing game. Unknown about "grasp" and "leadership". The question is... and it is still pending... did he improve enough to beat out Nuss. We shall find out (OR get lots of indicators) here shortly.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9312 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:44 am to
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The uncomfortable truth is that black QBs have to earn their support with their play on the field from LSU fans


Please inform me of any QB, no matter their color to not have to EARN support with their play on the field from LSU fans? Why is race even coming into play here? This is dumb! I won’t even waste my time with that.

If Daniel’s performs well he will be celebrated. The second he doesn’t, he will be doubted. It’s a new QB coming to LSU from a different school. You will always have idiots post dumb shite. I don’t see many people comparing him to Jefferson or Jennings, that’s just ridiculous.

More than 85% of our team is black so if they have an issue with black people or even black QBs then they need to just stop watching LSU and probably football period. I mean imo this is the very very small group of people and a minority of people who think this way.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89127 posts
Posted on 8/16/22 at 10:44 am to
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The uncomfortable truth is that black QBs have to earn their support with their play on the field from LSU fans


I mean this sincerely. Go frick yourself with this bullshite.
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