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re: Unglesby to ask Les to lift JJ's suspension (with link)
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:43 am to Chicot
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:43 am to Chicot
If JJ misses the entire season the likelihood of him coming back to start 2012 seems like a reach. ZM should get reps this season, if not become the starter at some point if JL falters. Where is the need for JJ in 2012 when ZM has a much better arm and should be able to add much more impact to the passing game with ongoing experience?
shite, I still don't know who has fractured vertebrae, and if it was actually caused in the melee, and, if so, by whom??? Who is this V. Long person and what is her tie to Lowery? Knowing what JJ is accused of, what specifically did J Johns do to be implicated/charged as well?
With the past litany of LSU QB's getting injured over a season you can never have too much backup. If JL/ZM go down people will be screaming for JJ to be reinstated, guilty, plead down, whatever.
shite, I still don't know who has fractured vertebrae, and if it was actually caused in the melee, and, if so, by whom??? Who is this V. Long person and what is her tie to Lowery? Knowing what JJ is accused of, what specifically did J Johns do to be implicated/charged as well?
With the past litany of LSU QB's getting injured over a season you can never have too much backup. If JL/ZM go down people will be screaming for JJ to be reinstated, guilty, plead down, whatever.
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:43 am to Chicot
quote:Wrong!
Wrong! He can schedule his weekly entertainment around practice time. He won't necessarily be able to do the same with his legal preparation. If the DA says lets meet at 3 pm, I don't think he will care much if that is during a scheduled practice or film session or what have you.
First, most legal proceedings do not require a party to attend. Jefferson can skip all of the meetings with the DA. It's not like Unglesby needs Jefferson at a meeting with the DA, or the administration, or the coaches.
Second, if the DA really needs to meet with Jefferson, the DA will schedule it at a mutually convenient time. That's what DAs and attorneys do.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:NO..it's delusional to not think some here want JJ gone just because they don't like him as a QB.
You really need a time out and a reality check. My god that is some serious delusion in one short sentence.
If anything these threads should prove some people here care more about LSU's starting lineup than some young man getting a fair trial.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:46 am to mikeytig
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By publically asking Miles to reinstate JJ? Are you kidding?
Definitely. It is the first course of action a good lawyer would take.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Your previous posts. I thought the same
Not sure what would have caused you to think that.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:47 am to Cadello
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Not sure what would have caused you to think that.
Your previous posts. I thought the same
My previous posts have been consistent with my posts in this thread. Just because I don't believe JJ is a stellar QB doesn't mean I believe he should be suspended for the season. Objectivity requires stepping away from your prejudices.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 11:49 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:47 am to Jester
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His college football career? Really? That is it?
What was he planning to do, support himself for the rest of his life off of his college career?
he already has his degree, which is what will secure his earnings potential from here on out.
I tried to post this earlier, but the thread was busy with all of the douches being douchey:
Listen, my biggest issue with the possible reinstatement of JJ is this. As he is going through the legal process, he will no doubt have several meetings with his attorney, with the DA, with a judge, etc. etc. All of this meetings during the judicial process will most certainly take time away from his preparation. So he will be in no mental state of mind to play. But if he is reinstated (even if he doesn't start) he will be taking practice reps away from players that may need those reps (not no saying in place of JL or ZM). Also, the fact that he might be there for some practices, might not be there for others can create a big distraction for the other players, all of whom also want to have a great season. So by saying that Miles needs to take care of JJ (I know those weren't your exact words), you are basically saying that JJ's desire to be with teammates should be more important to Miles than the wants and desires of the other 100 or so members of the team. Miles' job is to do what is in the best interest of the team...not one individual player.
Best post evaaaaar
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:48 am to just me
JJ should not be allowed to rejoin the team until this is settled. Period. He has been a distraction for the last 2 weeks and its time to move on.
If he gets reinstated through some plea agreement where charges are dropped or reduced, fine. He should be 3rd string.
No way LSU should grant him a redshirt and allow him to return next year. Move on and give Mett his chance. I dont think Miles is that stupid to think JJ can outplay Mett once he has been given somne time in the system.
If he gets reinstated through some plea agreement where charges are dropped or reduced, fine. He should be 3rd string.
No way LSU should grant him a redshirt and allow him to return next year. Move on and give Mett his chance. I dont think Miles is that stupid to think JJ can outplay Mett once he has been given somne time in the system.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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The final refuge of a feeble mind. When you can't possibly think of another reason to bash someone, scream racism.
If Johns were LSU's QB and accused of kicking someone in the face/head, there will be an equal reaction. Somewhere deep inside, I would like to think Choctaw is more intelligent than this, but I do have my doubts.
That may be true in Canada or where ever you are but I can guarantee the majority of the population of baton rouge and the surrounding area are racists.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:50 am to JJ27
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If he allows JJ to play against Oregon then "suspend" him for Northwestern, I will lose all respect for Miles.
right on my brother.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:51 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Of course the position and his playing time have something to do with it. How seriously will John's suspension affect LSU? Do you think we would be talking about JJ if he were a backup linebacker?
thats kinda my point
the media and police wouldn't be talking about it much either
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:51 am to junkfunky
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That may be true in Canada or where ever you are but I can guarantee the majority of the population of baton rouge and the surrounding area are racists.
And I can guarantee you that you don't know the true definition of a racist.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:52 am to Choctaw
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thats kinda my point
the media and police wouldn't be talking about it much either
Right, so race isn't the only conclusion you have to draw upon, yet so many go there. Sickening.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:53 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The very thing you accuse me of is the very thing I fight for.
Objectivity requires stepping away from your prejudices.
Look at my posts and see if at anytime I was putting the football program ahead of the innocence or guilt of any individual.
As much as I love LSU, I would never close a blind eye to the truth, when someone's life is involved.
LSU football is not greater than a human life, no sport is.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Right, so race isn't the only conclusion you have to draw upon, yet so many go there. Sickening.
i didn't say shite about race. I said we're not seeing the same animosity towards Johns.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 11:58 am to Cadello
Being an LSU fan doesn't mean you can't see things objectively. There are too many slow people on this board who don't seem to understand this.
I don't feel there will be a huge drop off in QB play if JJ misses the season, but it has nothing to do with my thoughts on his situation. He needs to be back on the team after a couple of games, which would be a fair suspension.
I don't feel there will be a huge drop off in QB play if JJ misses the season, but it has nothing to do with my thoughts on his situation. He needs to be back on the team after a couple of games, which would be a fair suspension.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:03 pm to The ATL
It blows my mind which part of the 1st paragraph you typed people like just me, jester, cadello, choctaw can't get through the thick frickingskulls.
The whiney bitching this group continues to do has seen its better day. Stfu already and look frwd to Saturday like most other Lsu fans.
The whiney bitching this group continues to do has seen its better day. Stfu already and look frwd to Saturday like most other Lsu fans.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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That may be true in Canada or where ever you are but I can guarantee the majority of the population of baton rouge and the surrounding area are racists.
Gtfo
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:07 pm to AlxTgr
Why is it so hard to realize what is being done here? I think it's a waste of time and does nothing but add further distraction and focus on the fight, but JJ's lawyer is trying to influence public opinion and get JJ back on the team.
If JJ is reinstated, it is easier for him and his attorney to fight the charges all out since there is no loss for him on the football end. If he can't get reinstated, then fighting the charges becomes problematic because a trial will likely take some time and could and likely will drag out through the season.
If JJ cops a plea to misdemeanor, he'll get at most a total of 3 to 4 game suspension. If it instead continues to play out where a felony conviction (no matter how minimally likely) is still a possibility, he will continue to be suspended through the process.
Right or wrong, it is the most likely way this will be handled. Posturing against the university is not going to help JJ or this team right now, but his lawyer chose to do it anyhow.
If JJ is reinstated, it is easier for him and his attorney to fight the charges all out since there is no loss for him on the football end. If he can't get reinstated, then fighting the charges becomes problematic because a trial will likely take some time and could and likely will drag out through the season.
If JJ cops a plea to misdemeanor, he'll get at most a total of 3 to 4 game suspension. If it instead continues to play out where a felony conviction (no matter how minimally likely) is still a possibility, he will continue to be suspended through the process.
Right or wrong, it is the most likely way this will be handled. Posturing against the university is not going to help JJ or this team right now, but his lawyer chose to do it anyhow.
Posted on 8/30/11 at 12:07 pm to Cadello
quote:THIS most of the people on here clearly do not understand the legal system, just because he was arrested does not make him guilty. In fact its the opposite he is innocent until proven guilty, and the dude had the best lawyer in the state.
I'm not OK with this ... I want this to be the last year of Jordan Jefferson at LSU. Good or bad, this program needs to move on. We have young QB's that need developing, I don't see how keeping JJ another year will benefit this team one little bit. That being said, if he isn't guilty he should be reinstated back on the team ASAP
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