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re: UGA complaints remind me of.....
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:30 pm to bee Rye
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:30 pm to bee Rye
I think it was a safety do to grounding. Whether or not the quarterback was inside the tackle box when he threw the ball (which is up for debate)the throw clearly did not go past the line of scrimmage, so it would be grounding.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:31 pm to xiv
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2006: Hey LSU, don't blame the refs when you only score 3.
No. No. Why would you ever blame the refs for that??
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:34 pm to Prominentwon
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No. No. Why would you ever blame the refs for that??
Apparently bad calls, even numerous ones throughout a game, have no bearing on the final outcome because any team, naturally, can just just score 50 points and overcome the officiating.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:35 pm to biglego
It was 50% refs and
50% genius who will keep FSU down for the next 5 years
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:38 pm to triplesauce
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It was 50% refs and
50% genius who will keep FSU down for the next 5 years
I agree with this 10000000%. But I can't stand it when people act like the officiating had nothing to do with the outcome. And even with Jimbo's sorry arse game plan, LSU still would have won had there been competent refs.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:41 pm to xiv
quote:xiv you're a nice enough poster, but comparing what happened to OU in 2006 or LSU on the same day with the UGa call indicates you simply don't know much about football.
2009: UGA gets flagged for a bullshite excessive celebration. Many blame this for UGA's loss. They ignore a 50-yard kick return (and offside call) they gave up on the next play.
Don't blame the refs when YOU blew it.
Same thing when the refs "handed the game" to Oregon in 2004(?). Hey, Oklahoma, when the game's on the line, don't give up a 50-yard drive in less than a minute.
2006: Hey LSU, don't blame the refs when you only score 3.
2004: Alabama fans blamed the refs for a loss at LSU when there was a bogus pass interference no-call in the LSU endzone. Final score, LSU 26-10. Didn't know that pass interference was worth 17 points.
FWIW, the refs had already called a celebration penalty on UGa earlier. Both teams were on notice. AJ Green, like Charles Scott, chose to ignore the notice. So, regardless of whether it was a good call or bad call ==> IT WAS A PREDICTABLE CALL !
When something is as predictable as this was, and you do it anyway, don't geaux crying about it afterwards. STFU, learn from it, and move on.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:43 pm to biglego
quote:he threw it right at #49, in no way should there have been a grounding call
I think on the replay it showed the QB was just outside the tackle box. But yeah it was very close.
now if you want to argue holding, thats a different story
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:45 pm to xiv
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Same thing when the refs "handed the game" to Oregon in 2004(?). Hey, Oklahoma, when the game's on the line, don't give up a 50-yard drive in less than a minute.
try 2006...
This post was edited on 10/6/09 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:48 pm to bee Rye
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he threw it right at #49
Oh wait, "he threw it right at #49" like Jonathan Crompton throws it "right at" his receivers. OK I get it.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:58 pm to bee Rye
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he threw it right at #49, in no way should there have been a grounding call
now if you want to argue holding, thats a different story
Perhaps someone who knows the rule in question can enlighten me, but in my mind whether there was a receiver in the area or if he was outside the tackle box are immaterial. He only threw the ball to avoid being sacked as he was only half a second away from being face-planted by Alem and was already on his way down in the end zone.
That should have been a safety because he was in the process of being sacked and not just running for his life.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 3:59 pm to TexasTiger08
Oklahoma was royally screwed on the onside kick if I remember it right. They still had game to play, but should have never been in the situation to begin with. They should have been kneeling out the game instead.
Auburn game, I'm not going to get started on that crap.
Safety this past weekend, I have a problem with the ruling more than with it not being called. By rule because the ball went somewhere an eligible receiver was standing, it's not grounding. However, no damn way did he have any clue where that ball was going. He was right on the line of the tackle box (you want to give it to him? ok) and just flung the ball while being tackled. I'm not so sure he wasn't staring straight up in the air when he threw it.
Celebration calls (all 3) were shitty. I still stand by the only one I was okay with being called was the one on Green because I thought it went on for much longer than needed. Celebrated when he got up, then with the nearby receiver, then went and sought out even more teammates all while still on the field of play. The last of these is the one that the ref through the flag on, and the replays show what the referee first came out and mentioned. While Green is celebrating with that last group, he turns away from them and towards the crowd. The ref is RIGHT NEXT TO HIM at this time, and before he jumped into that last group was trying to get him to stop.
They never panned back enough to show what gesture Green made to the crowd, but you can clearly see him turn to them after all of the aforementioned celebrating. While I think it's shitty that these kids can't celebrate much anymore, it was not a surprise that the league has been coming down on this exact issue, so it shouldn't be such an outrage that it was called.
Oh and 40 yard return 5 yard penalty Same call on us etc etc
Auburn game, I'm not going to get started on that crap.
Safety this past weekend, I have a problem with the ruling more than with it not being called. By rule because the ball went somewhere an eligible receiver was standing, it's not grounding. However, no damn way did he have any clue where that ball was going. He was right on the line of the tackle box (you want to give it to him? ok) and just flung the ball while being tackled. I'm not so sure he wasn't staring straight up in the air when he threw it.
Celebration calls (all 3) were shitty. I still stand by the only one I was okay with being called was the one on Green because I thought it went on for much longer than needed. Celebrated when he got up, then with the nearby receiver, then went and sought out even more teammates all while still on the field of play. The last of these is the one that the ref through the flag on, and the replays show what the referee first came out and mentioned. While Green is celebrating with that last group, he turns away from them and towards the crowd. The ref is RIGHT NEXT TO HIM at this time, and before he jumped into that last group was trying to get him to stop.
They never panned back enough to show what gesture Green made to the crowd, but you can clearly see him turn to them after all of the aforementioned celebrating. While I think it's shitty that these kids can't celebrate much anymore, it was not a surprise that the league has been coming down on this exact issue, so it shouldn't be such an outrage that it was called.
Oh and 40 yard return 5 yard penalty Same call on us etc etc
Posted on 10/6/09 at 4:49 pm to bee Rye
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he threw it right at #49, in no way should there have been a grounding call
now if you want to argue holding, thats a different story
Perhaps someone who knows the rule in question can enlighten me, but in my mind whether there was a receiver in the area or if he was outside the tackle box are immaterial. He only threw the ball to avoid being sacked as he was only half a second away from being face-planted by Alem and was already on his way down in the end zone.
That should have been a safety because he was in the process of being sacked and not just running for his life.
Sorry, I have no idea how this got double-posted.
This post was edited on 10/6/09 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 10/6/09 at 5:09 pm to mtntiger
No one was ever cheated as bad as Missouri in '99 when Colorado had 5 downs.
Was Les on McCartney's staff then?
Was Les on McCartney's staff then?
Posted on 10/6/09 at 7:52 pm to biglego
quote:If you take care of your own shite first, you won't have to bitch about the refs. That is the case in every instance I've put in this thread.
Apparently bad calls, even numerous ones throughout a game, have no bearing on the final outcome because any team, naturally, can just just score 50 points and overcome the officiating.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 7:53 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:So you've become that poster?
xiv you're a nice enough poster, but comparing what happened to OU in 2006 or LSU on the same day with the UGa call indicates you simply don't know much about football.
You and I have e-known each other for at least five years now. You should be above that.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 7:55 pm to mtntiger
quote:I don't have a rulebook handy, but I'm under the impression that if you exit the tackle box and throw it beyond the line of scrimmage, there can be no grounding call. I'm also under the impression that the UGA quarterback did these two things.
Perhaps someone who knows the rule in question can enlighten me, but in my mind whether there was a receiver in the area or if he was outside the tackle box are immaterial. He only threw the ball to avoid being sacked as he was only half a second away from being face-planted by Alem and was already on his way down in the end zone.
That should have been a safety because he was in the process of being sacked and not just running for his life.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 7:57 pm to Eternalmajin
quote:But they were. And they gave up half the field in less than a minute. The officials blew the call; Oklahoma blew the game.
Oklahoma was royally screwed on the onside kick if I remember it right. They still had game to play, but should have never been in the situation to begin with.
quote:Fair enough.
Auburn game, I'm not going to get started on that crap.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:11 pm to xiv
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So you've become that poster?
Well, you are making some rather ridiculous comparisons in this inane thread. I hope that this is just meant to fish for responses, which seems to be your M.O.
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:13 pm to xiv
From 06 Auburn, don't forget about the completion to Hester on 4th down in Auburn territory down inside their 35 that was reviewed, clearly a catch for a 1st down, but overturned to be incomplete.
This post was edited on 10/6/09 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 10/6/09 at 8:14 pm to Night Man
quote:No I'm not.
Well, you are making some rather ridiculous comparisons in this inane thread.
People blame the refs for games their teams blew. True for all four games.
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