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re: Trading High On Les Miles?

Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:36 am to
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:36 am to
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If Miles doesn't want to be here after the loyalty LSU has shown him then he needs to go. LSU has given him extensions and a very fat contract. The LSU program has been more than fair to him. If he wants to take a pay cut to coach at his Alma mater then I wish him luck and LSU football will survive.


Does this work the other way around...if Les does want to stay, do the fans who don't respect his loyalty to LSU need to go?
Posted by ATLTiger
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:37 am to
I wouldn't be upset per se, but I'm really hoping to sell high on Crowton.
Posted by EmperorGout
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:37 am to
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all of this is irrelevant to the hypothetical question that I asked.


You are a recent graduate of the SFP school of posting I see
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:38 am to
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Trading High On Les Miles?
You should always sell penny stocks at their highs.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:39 am to
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You are a recent graduate of the SFP school of posting I see


do you not understand the idea of a hypothetical?

i set up a situation, and then asked a question based on that situation. then i provided background and a hypothesis for the same question, and a framework for that analogy.

your inability to grasp these concepts, apply them, and then answer the question at hand, saddens me.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 11:40 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:40 am to
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I wouldn't be upset per se, but I'm really hoping to sell high on Crowton.


finally. an answer.
Posted by nycajun
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:40 am to
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Trading refers to the act of stock trading, and my analogy to Les Miles as a stock.

Not swapping Les Miles one for one with another coach.


But since LSU is in a position of having to have a head football coach (well, unless we let the Rant do the job via message board), the act of "selling high" requires a corresponding act of buying--thus a "trade." Any consideration of whether to sell must be made in light of what is available to be bought. You're like a sector fund--you have to stay invested.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 11:45 am
Posted by memphis tiger
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:41 am to
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Not swapping Les Miles one for one with another coach. I set up the conditions of this question. Les Miles leaves voluntarily. Would you be upset or not?


I think, at this point, anyone NOT upset by Miles leaving better be careful what they wish for.

I know it can be painful to watch at times, but at some point all this winning is no longer just luck.
Posted by Boondock Saint
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:42 am to
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I remember the year DiNardo took us to the Independance Bowl, and we damn near threw him a ticker tape parade!!


That made me laugh because it's true! My freshman year at LSU was Curly's last year (those games were miserable, but I didn't miss one home game!). We thought DiNardo was a godsend. I remember when we actually got ranked (somewhere in the 20's) and how excited I was.

This fanbase has definitely become spoiled......and the really young ones just have no idea.....
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:42 am to
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But since LSU is in a position of having to have a head football coach (well, unless we let the Rant do the job via message board), the act of "selling high" requires a corresponding act of buying--thus a "trade." Cany consideration of whether to sell must be made in light of what is available to be bought. You're like a sector fund--you have to stay invested.



Fair enough. But it's not a one v. one trade, as per the poster's stance above. It would be a forced sell, then due dilligence, and then re-investment.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:44 am to
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I think, at this point, anyone NOT upset by Miles leaving better be careful what they wish for.


i think the grounds for not being upset is based on volatility. have you ever dated/known someone with bipolar disorder?
Posted by Carolinacajun
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:44 am to
In the SEC every, repeat EVERY, team needs luck to get through the season. Look at what has happened to Fla and bama this year. Auburn could very well have four losses right now. Mississipi St. COULD be one loss and SEC West Champs. That's it for me. I am out of this dumbass thread.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:46 am to
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In the SEC every, repeat EVERY, team needs luck to get through the season. Look at what has happened to Fla and bama this year. Auburn could very well have four losses right now. Mississipi St. COULD be one loss and SEC West Champs. That's it for me. I am out of this dumbass thread.


man, this thread is filled with dumbasses alright. it has one less now that you've left.
Posted by ELVIS U
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:47 am to
We would not be selling because we would get nothing in return. If he sold high I would be upset because we are not going to get anyone better.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:47 am to
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i think the grounds for not being upset is based on volatility


I don't know. If Miles left it would be very difficult to bring someone in who can replicate his success.

He's been here 6 years and in 4 of them we have been at least in the discussion for the SEC and BCS titles until late in the season.

If he left volutarily that would be hard to replace. And I am on record as wanting him gone earlier this year. But 10 wins with JJ and JL at QB is pretty impressive.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:48 am to
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If he left volutarily that would be hard to replace. And I am on record as wanting him gone earlier this year. But 10 wins with JJ and JL at QB is pretty impressive.


it is indeed impressive. that would be why his stock would be high, and someone might make him a sweetheart enough offer for him to leave.

but i remember the bad with the good as well.
Posted by leeh
Sinton, Texas
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:51 am to
I've been around longer than most so I've seen more down side than up side hireing coaches. Some times I think it's a crap shoot when a University hires a football coach for that matter most any other college coach.

Keep the one we have. These are the best years for football at LSU that anyone can remember.

One of the problems with many of our fans are they are not willing to eat a big plate of Crow.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:53 am to
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all of this is irrelevant to the hypothetical question that I asked.


If none of that is relevant, your hypothetical sucks?

So what are you asking? Would we be happy if Miles left and we had no one at coach? If that's the question, it's retarded.
Posted by TheBaker
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:54 am to
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Damn... too many on this board born in the '90's, came of age about the time when going to a bowl game was expected. Pissed when we don't win 10 games.


i was born in the 70's and remember the Stoval era. with that being said, Miles needs to go to Michigan if offered IMHO. LSU is the only 10-1 team in America that has looked TERRIBLE and is a pubic hair away from being 7-4, maybe even 6-5. it was LUCK that the UNC tight end dropped a TD at the end of the game. it was LUCK that Tennessee had 11 men on the field instead of 13. it was LUCK that the ball bounced DIRECTLY into the hands of Jasper against Florida. had all of the lucky bounces gone DiNardo's way in 1998, LSU would have been 10-1 as well. DiNardo had BAD LUCK against UGA in '98 and lost by 1 point. DiNardo had BAD LUCK against Kentucky in '98 and lost by a FG. DiNardo had BAD LUCK against UF in '98 and lost due to one pick 6 being called back and one being dropped. DiNardo had BAD LUCK against Ole Miss when Larry Foster dropped a TD in OT. DiNardo had BAD LUCK when Abraham Booty dropped a TD against ND late in the game. DiNardo had BAD LUCK when he lost his 4 year starter at QB and lost to Arkansas. talent and LUCK is winning, not coaching.

Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 11:56 am to
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If none of that is relevant, your hypothetical sucks?



the question is not, whether or not we should get rid of the coach. Or would we rather have someone else.

The question is the level of upsetdness, if we were forced into that position. With Saban, the level of discontent at the decision was at EPIC levels. We didn't want him to leave, and he left. People were devastated. I can hardly see that happening with Miles.
quote:

So what are you asking? Would we be happy if Miles left and we had no one at coach? If that's the question, it's retarded.


I think it is fairly easy to see what I'm asking.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 11:57 am
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