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Top College Coaches With Poor Seasons Including Bad Losses
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:45 pm
Urban Meyer
Year - 2010
Record - 8-5
Bad Losses:
#1 Alabama 31-6
#22 South Carolina 36-14
#22 Florida St 31-7
Notes: Florida's record each of the previous 2 seasons was 13-1
Since then: Meyer went 12-0 in 2012 and 12-2 in 2013
Mark Richt
Year - A few to choose from, but 2010 was his worst season
Record - 6-7
Bad Losses:
Mississippi St 24-12
Colorado 29-27
UCF 10-6
Notes: Richt won 10 or more games in 6 of 8 seasons before 2010
Since then: Richt has 10 win seasons in 2 of 3 including a 12-2 2012 which was 1 play away from the BCS Championship game.
Nick Saban
Year: 2002
Record: 8-5
Bad Losses:
#16 Virginia Tech 26-8
Auburn 31-7
#10 Alabama 31-0
Notes: LSU won the SEC and conference championship the year before with a 10-3 record
Since: Saban has won 4 BCS Championships
Bob Stoops
Year: 2009
Record: 8-5
Bad Losses:
BYU 14-13
Texas Tech 41-13
Notes: Stoops was 1-1 in previous BCS Championship games had won 10+ games 8 out of 10 previous seasons.
Since then: Stoops has finished in the top 15 in all 4 seasons since then including 2 bcs bowl victories.
Mark Dantonio
Year: 2012
Record: 7-6
Bad Losses:
#20 Notre Dame 20-3
Iowa 19-16
Notes: Dantonio led Michigan St to an 11-2 record in 2010 and an 11-3 record in 2011
Since Then: Michigan St. went 13-1 last season with a Rose Bowl victory.
Year - 2010
Record - 8-5
Bad Losses:
#1 Alabama 31-6
#22 South Carolina 36-14
#22 Florida St 31-7
Notes: Florida's record each of the previous 2 seasons was 13-1
Since then: Meyer went 12-0 in 2012 and 12-2 in 2013
Mark Richt
Year - A few to choose from, but 2010 was his worst season
Record - 6-7
Bad Losses:
Mississippi St 24-12
Colorado 29-27
UCF 10-6
Notes: Richt won 10 or more games in 6 of 8 seasons before 2010
Since then: Richt has 10 win seasons in 2 of 3 including a 12-2 2012 which was 1 play away from the BCS Championship game.
Nick Saban
Year: 2002
Record: 8-5
Bad Losses:
#16 Virginia Tech 26-8
Auburn 31-7
#10 Alabama 31-0
Notes: LSU won the SEC and conference championship the year before with a 10-3 record
Since: Saban has won 4 BCS Championships
Bob Stoops
Year: 2009
Record: 8-5
Bad Losses:
BYU 14-13
Texas Tech 41-13
Notes: Stoops was 1-1 in previous BCS Championship games had won 10+ games 8 out of 10 previous seasons.
Since then: Stoops has finished in the top 15 in all 4 seasons since then including 2 bcs bowl victories.
Mark Dantonio
Year: 2012
Record: 7-6
Bad Losses:
#20 Notre Dame 20-3
Iowa 19-16
Notes: Dantonio led Michigan St to an 11-2 record in 2010 and an 11-3 record in 2011
Since Then: Michigan St. went 13-1 last season with a Rose Bowl victory.
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:46 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Les Miles is the only coach to have a down year ever.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:47 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
I'd say this team is similar to that Georgia team with the future brighter than what they had.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 3:49 pm to The Eric
It happens.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:04 pm to TheDeathValley
None of these coaches bad seasons were losing ones. May it be so for LSU.
ETA: Oops, I missed Richt's 6-7 from post-season bowling.
ETA: Oops, I missed Richt's 6-7 from post-season bowling.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:06 pm to JawjaTigah
quote:
None of these coaches bad seasons were losing ones. May it be so for LSU.
I guess 6-7 isn't a losing season.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:25 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Mark Dantonio
An excellent coach that would be great at LSU with the talent we recruit.
An excellent coach that would be great at LSU with the talent we recruit.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:31 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:39 pm to justustm2
quote:
Mark Dantonio
An excellent coach that would be great at LSU with the talent we recruit.
He probably would be great. I wonder if he could do something like 7 top 15 finishes in 9 seasons including 1 bcs championship in 2 appearances and 2 sec championships in 3 appearances, because that would be pretty great. He probably would have the occasional down year though since he has shown a propensity to have one in the weak Big 10.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:46 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Only one with a less than .500 season. lets wait and see how this one plays out
Posted on 10/7/14 at 4:59 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Something has to be said about a coaches ability to stay hungry. The attitude of the coach filters down to the players. So it's very possible for apathy to set in when a coach with a championship or bust mindset realizes a championship is out of the question. Which I believe is possible and most likely probable with this team.
Urban Meyer stepped away when that mindset began to cause him physical ailments. It seems as though he has recharged his batteries again at Ohio State and is once again hungry.
I believe this is why coaches like Malzahn, Freeze, Sumlin, etc., seem to be running circles around Miles both in enthusiasm and coaching in general.
Urban Meyer stepped away when that mindset began to cause him physical ailments. It seems as though he has recharged his batteries again at Ohio State and is once again hungry.
I believe this is why coaches like Malzahn, Freeze, Sumlin, etc., seem to be running circles around Miles both in enthusiasm and coaching in general.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:01 pm to justustm2
quote:
An excellent coach that would be great at LSU with the talent we recruit.
He's had a number of health issues due to stress at Michigan State. How do you think he'd deal with Rantards?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:17 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Another to save for the end of the year.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:19 pm to RonSwanson
Very solid post.
I'm not sure if you've ever heard Larry Bird's theory on this. While I don't know the exact stats, I know for sure he quit coaching the pacers at a time when everyone else thought he was at his absolute prime.
He left though anyway. When pressed as to why, he simply stated that after about 5 years, human nature dictates that a person has less passion, drive, and energy for their current coaching situation. As a result, coaches just flat out lose some of their effectiveness after time.
Stoops was great early on. Just another good coach after the first five years. Same way w/saban at Bama. CUM at Florida. Miles at LSU. The recent LSU teams have looked NOTHING like that 2007 crew. Or 2005. Even Miles good teams as of late don't seem all that energized.
Here's the rub though. IMO, a season like this one reignites that fire. So, rather than run a really successful coach off, that seemingly loves this program, I'd rather sit through the occasional stinker of a season than try and find a new coach that may could be better than the winningest coach we've ever had.
Will it make 2014 any easier? Nah. But if long term, consistent success is what you're after, you'd prolly be smart to embrace what we've got.
I'm not sure if you've ever heard Larry Bird's theory on this. While I don't know the exact stats, I know for sure he quit coaching the pacers at a time when everyone else thought he was at his absolute prime.
He left though anyway. When pressed as to why, he simply stated that after about 5 years, human nature dictates that a person has less passion, drive, and energy for their current coaching situation. As a result, coaches just flat out lose some of their effectiveness after time.
Stoops was great early on. Just another good coach after the first five years. Same way w/saban at Bama. CUM at Florida. Miles at LSU. The recent LSU teams have looked NOTHING like that 2007 crew. Or 2005. Even Miles good teams as of late don't seem all that energized.
Here's the rub though. IMO, a season like this one reignites that fire. So, rather than run a really successful coach off, that seemingly loves this program, I'd rather sit through the occasional stinker of a season than try and find a new coach that may could be better than the winningest coach we've ever had.
Will it make 2014 any easier? Nah. But if long term, consistent success is what you're after, you'd prolly be smart to embrace what we've got.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:21 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Just stop you are making to much sense. A moron will tell you none of those programs have our talent. Yet never give Miles credit for said talent. Hahahahaha
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:33 pm to TigerTreyjpg
quote:
Here's the rub though. IMO, a season like this one reignites that fire. So, rather than run a really successful coach off, that seemingly loves this program, I'd rather sit through the occasional stinker of a season than try and find a new coach that may could be better than the winningest coach we've ever had.
I would prefer 10X over that Les "reignite" than go through a coaching change. And I agree with the earlier post by "Ron Swanson" that Les just doesn't seem like the same coach from his earlier days.
But here's why I don't see a "reignition event" happening:
a) If Les needed one for this season he should have come away from the State game on fire. He didn't. Instead, we were treated to a replay. Gettting his butt kicked by Mullen had zero effect.
b) If Les needed it for his career at LSU why didn't the last two season do it? We had all this NFL talent and we get to the Chick-fil-A and the Outback bowls. No championships. NO BCS bowls. Were those "success"?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:54 pm to AlwysATgr
quote:
a) If Les needed one for this season he should have come away from the State game on fire. He didn't. Instead, we were treated to a replay. Gettting his butt kicked by Mullen had zero effect.
Trust me, I get this. Honestly, I think Miles' stubborness to stay the course resulted from his thinking that the Miss. State game was an anolamy and not an indictment of his overall coaching philosophy.
Same thing with the past two seasons. Especially considering how close we were to getting back to championship contention if Yeldon doesn't take that screen pass to the endzone.
Being really close to the top but not quite there doesn't make you step back and examine yourself as much as a catastrophic season does.
Maybe, just maybe, the loss to Auburn will open his eyes to the folly of staying the course that has got him to this point. But I don't have a lot of confidence in that.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 5:59 pm to TigerTreyjpg
quote:
I'm not sure if you've ever heard Larry Bird's theory on this
No, but it absolutely makes sense and is exactly what you are seeing in the SEC West right now.
The top half of the West standings, right now, are all filled with coaches who have something to prove and are in the process of climbing the top.
Like Mack Brown said it's harder to stay at the top than to get there.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:09 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
He's had a number of health issues due to stress at Michigan State. How do you think he'd deal with Rantards?
This.
Small, sleepy southern cities turn NYC-intense when it comes to football. If East Lansing stresses you out, Baton Rouge or Tuscaloser might not be the best workplace.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:25 pm to PurpleandGoldmember
Good post and directly disproves one of the main themes being repeated on here.
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