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re: Top 8 All Time LSU Football Players
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:34 am to RoyBoy2323
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:34 am to RoyBoy2323
You can't ignore Gaynell Tinsley. LSU's first All American, and in his day a beast on the field.
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Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:35 am to p&g
quote:
He was a badass, dependable, tough, producing football player at LSU who made his team better.
Absolutely. So were many, many other players. I loved his grit and determination. His performance against UF is one of my all time favorite moments. But I'm sorry, I just don't think he belongs in that top echelon.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:35 am to KingofthePoint
quote:
Hester should be nowhere near the top 8
He was damn solid, but he's likely not top 8 "modern" running backs, depending on where that starts. He's certainly nowhere near a top 8 player in overall history.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:36 am to p&g
quote:
He was a badass, dependable, tough, producing football player at LSU who made his team better.
Not sure anyone disagrees with those, right?
The things is, this was the title of this thread:
quote:
Top 8 All Time LSU Football Players
Listing Hester in the Top 8 All Time at LSU is, without disrespecting the guy, a laughable assertion for anyone with any cursory knowledge of our program.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:36 am to p&g
It’s a thread about the top 8 all-time football players. It absolutely matters.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:38 am to p&g
quote:
He was a badass, dependable, tough, producing football player at LSU who made his team better.
Just admit you only want to rank him that high because he's white
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:38 am to GeauxTigerTM
Tommy Casanova not being listed is pure definition of laughable on this particular topic far more than Hester being listed.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:41 am to RoyBoy2323
Total miss. You listed the most heralded and talked about players.
If you look at the total careers, the best players were the ones you don't hear about.
Andrew Whitworth
4× Pro Bowl (2012, 2015–2017)
2× First-team All-Pro (2015, 2017)
Second-team All-Pro (2014)
Built Ford Tough Offensive Line of the Year (2018)
BCS national champion (2003)
2× First-team All-SEC (2004, 2005)
USA Today High School All-American (2000)
Alan Faneca
Super Bowl champion (XL)
9× Pro Bowl (2001–2009)
6× First-team All-Pro (2001, 2002, 2004–2007)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2003, 2008)
Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Team
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Jacobs Blocking Trophy (1997)
Consensus All-American (1997)
2× First-team All-SEC (1996, 1997)
Kevin Mawae
8× Pro Bowl (1999–2004, 2008, 2009)
7× First-team All-Pro (1999–2002, 2004, 2007, 2008)
Second-team All-Pro (1998)
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1994)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
New York Jets Ring of Honor
First-team All-SEC (1991)
Second-team All-SEC (1993)
Pro Football Hall of Fame (2019)
Kyle Williams
6× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012,2013, 2014, 2016, 2018)
Second-team All-Pro (2010)
Second-team All-American (2005)
First-team All-SEC (2005)
BCS national champion (2003)
Leonard Marshall
2× Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV)
2× Pro Bowl (1985, 1986)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1985, 1986)
If you look at the total careers, the best players were the ones you don't hear about.
Andrew Whitworth
4× Pro Bowl (2012, 2015–2017)
2× First-team All-Pro (2015, 2017)
Second-team All-Pro (2014)
Built Ford Tough Offensive Line of the Year (2018)
BCS national champion (2003)
2× First-team All-SEC (2004, 2005)
USA Today High School All-American (2000)
Alan Faneca
Super Bowl champion (XL)
9× Pro Bowl (2001–2009)
6× First-team All-Pro (2001, 2002, 2004–2007)
2× Second-team All-Pro (2003, 2008)
Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Team
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
Jacobs Blocking Trophy (1997)
Consensus All-American (1997)
2× First-team All-SEC (1996, 1997)
Kevin Mawae
8× Pro Bowl (1999–2004, 2008, 2009)
7× First-team All-Pro (1999–2002, 2004, 2007, 2008)
Second-team All-Pro (1998)
PFWA All-Rookie Team (1994)
NFL 2000s All-Decade Team
New York Jets Ring of Honor
First-team All-SEC (1991)
Second-team All-SEC (1993)
Pro Football Hall of Fame (2019)
Kyle Williams
6× Pro Bowl (2010, 2012,2013, 2014, 2016, 2018)
Second-team All-Pro (2010)
Second-team All-American (2005)
First-team All-SEC (2005)
BCS national champion (2003)
Leonard Marshall
2× Super Bowl champion (XXI, XXV)
2× Pro Bowl (1985, 1986)
2× Second-team All-Pro (1985, 1986)
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:42 am to p&g
quote:
He was a badass, dependable, tough, producing football player at LSU who made his team better.
Not the point of this thread brudda.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:43 am to RoyBoy2323
Casanova is probably #1 and not even on your list.
Fail.
Fail.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:44 am to RoyBoy2323
I have only "watched college football since 2003. But started hardcore following it in 2006. My favorite players in no particular order are
8. Devin White
7. Dwayne Bowe
6. Early Doucet
5. Matt Flynn
4. Craig Steltz
3. Patrick Peterson
2. Tyrann Mathieu
1. Glenn Dorsey
Edit:changed "Bowl" to Bowe
8. Devin White
7. Dwayne Bowe
6. Early Doucet
5. Matt Flynn
4. Craig Steltz
3. Patrick Peterson
2. Tyrann Mathieu
1. Glenn Dorsey
Edit:changed "Bowl" to Bowe
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:44 am to RoyBoy2323
I think you have to break it down into three eras
Pre WW2
Dietzle/Mac
Post Mac
Could actually make an argument for a fourth —Saban/Miles
I think the style of play and talent were sort of similar in the eras above , which makes it easier to compare players. Very difficult to compare YA, to Bert Jones, Hodson, Ro, Jamarcus, Flynn etc. I think it’s difficult to compare any of the Dietzle/Mac quarterbacks to any post Mac quarterbacks.
If hardware is the true measure, regardless of era—-Cannon, Stovall , Dorsey, ——and a toss up between TM, TC or PP. I can’t recall which of those DBs has the most hardware.
Pre WW2
Dietzle/Mac
Post Mac
Could actually make an argument for a fourth —Saban/Miles
I think the style of play and talent were sort of similar in the eras above , which makes it easier to compare players. Very difficult to compare YA, to Bert Jones, Hodson, Ro, Jamarcus, Flynn etc. I think it’s difficult to compare any of the Dietzle/Mac quarterbacks to any post Mac quarterbacks.
If hardware is the true measure, regardless of era—-Cannon, Stovall , Dorsey, ——and a toss up between TM, TC or PP. I can’t recall which of those DBs has the most hardware.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:44 am to RoyBoy2323
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7. Jacob Hester
4 year career, 1780 rushing yards.
His career yardage ranks 19th, just in front of Keiland Williams.
Recent backs who rank higher:
Fournette
Addai
Scott
Hill
Toefield
D. Davis
Vincent
Guice
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:45 am to 3rdRowTailgater
He was glorified full back
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:46 am to Tiger Ree
Todd McClure too.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:46 am to RoyBoy2323
I’ll do 10 just from the last 20-25 years or so:
1. Kevin Faulk
2. Glen Dorsey
3. Patrick Peterson
4. Honey Badger
6. Devin White
7. Kevin Mawae
8. Josh Reed
9. Andrew Whitworth
10. Jacob Hester
I could probably put 50 guys here easily. OBJ, Landry, Alan Faneca, Jamal Adams, Lavalais, Spears, Bowe, Hill, Collins, Royal, Brockers, etc all belong up there.
1. Kevin Faulk
2. Glen Dorsey
3. Patrick Peterson
4. Honey Badger
6. Devin White
7. Kevin Mawae
8. Josh Reed
9. Andrew Whitworth
10. Jacob Hester
I could probably put 50 guys here easily. OBJ, Landry, Alan Faneca, Jamal Adams, Lavalais, Spears, Bowe, Hill, Collins, Royal, Brockers, etc all belong up there.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:47 am to Damone
I didnt rank him that high you racist frick.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:48 am to RoyBoy2323
quote:
Lets see your list and I can poke holes in it.
Gaynell Tinsley
Billy Cannon
Jerry Stovall
Tommy Casanova
Glenn Dorsey
Patrick Peterson
Morris Claiborne
Grant Delpit
All of these players represent 7 of the 8 players at LSU to ever get unanimous All-American honors, plus the only 3-time winner of the award at LSU.
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:52 am to RoyBoy2323
No 3 time first team all American Tommy Casanova?
This post was edited on 4/11/19 at 11:53 am
Posted on 4/11/19 at 11:54 am to p&g
quote:
I didnt rank him that high you racist frick.
Calm down, TIGRLEE. The white guy was a very good football player for us. It's OK.
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