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re: Tommy Amaker bball coach at Harvard, and Shaq
Posted on 1/29/12 at 10:21 am to Tom Bronco
Posted on 1/29/12 at 10:21 am to Tom Bronco
If you were to hire an ex-LSU player, Randy Livingston is 187632527 times a better hire than Shaq.
He's actually coached basketball before, and being an ex-player here, I think the fan base would be more patient with him.
He's actually coached basketball before, and being an ex-player here, I think the fan base would be more patient with him.
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Posted on 1/29/12 at 12:09 pm to Sheep
Did Livingston just start coaching in the D League?
I think he would make an outstanding lead assistant for whoever the next coach is.
And I don't thin Amaker is the ideal hire for LSU (though an improvement over Trent because he loves to recruit).
I think he would make an outstanding lead assistant for whoever the next coach is.
And I don't thin Amaker is the ideal hire for LSU (though an improvement over Trent because he loves to recruit).
Posted on 1/29/12 at 12:24 pm to ralsu
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Shaka Smart would be the perfect hired
I disagree. LSU basketball not only has to win, they have to have a personality that will attract the common fans.
We need a poor man's John Calipari.. Whoever that might be.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 12:28 pm to OweO
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We need a poor man's John Calipari
Guaranteed probation? No thanks. I'll take a clean, shitty basketball program.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 12:32 pm to Keys Open Doors
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Did Livingston just start coaching in the D League?
yeah, this is his 2nd year I think.
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I think he would make an outstanding lead assistant for whoever the next coach is.
yup, having never been a college coach, I think he'd need some time to get acclimated.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:32 pm to Elleshoe
Anthony Grant is a failure at Alabama. Why do people think his protege, Shaka Smart, will do any better?
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:34 pm to Bubba Hotep
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Anthony Grant is a failure at Alabama. Why do people think his protege, Shaka Smart, will do any better?
Need to be careful about those one-year tourney cinderella coaches that win with inherited talent.
How many of those guys end up being busts? Remember Arkansas hiring that guy from Kent State after he went to the Elite 8 on inherited talent. Prime example..one of many.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:35 pm to Bubba Hotep
You're really adamant about declaring Grant a failure yet you say we have to let it play out when it comes to Trent. Why is that? If Grant's a failure already then so is Trent.
This post was edited on 1/29/12 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:41 pm to saintsfan22
Totally different issue. If I'm an Alabama fan, I would also let it play out. However, if I was searching for a coach right now, I wouldn't hire Grant or Johnson, or their proteges.
Grant is in year three, his best players are STILL Gottfried players, and it's looking like he will be 0-3 in NCAA bids. His only big recruits were local kids. He has no commits or signees for this year.
Grant is in year three, his best players are STILL Gottfried players, and it's looking like he will be 0-3 in NCAA bids. His only big recruits were local kids. He has no commits or signees for this year.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:42 pm to Bubba Hotep
Shaq as a coach? I can see him now, putting woopie cushions on the team bench during a game
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:45 pm to Bubba Hotep
Smart did more with Grant's talent than Grant did...and when all the seniors departed from VCU, Shaka still has the Rams playing damn good ball.
I am not saying we need him as the next coach, just saying he seems to know what the hell he is doing rather than just living off of someone else.
And Brad Stevens? Why the HELL would he leave Butler for LSU. Butler has passed Gonzaga in terms of cinderella becoming a star. Butler will dish out money to keep the guy. He is loved wherever he goes. He is already a living legend in Indy. What reason does he have to leave? Their program, top-to-bottom, is every bit as good as the big boys in the state...Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, and that says alot.
I am not saying we need him as the next coach, just saying he seems to know what the hell he is doing rather than just living off of someone else.
And Brad Stevens? Why the HELL would he leave Butler for LSU. Butler has passed Gonzaga in terms of cinderella becoming a star. Butler will dish out money to keep the guy. He is loved wherever he goes. He is already a living legend in Indy. What reason does he have to leave? Their program, top-to-bottom, is every bit as good as the big boys in the state...Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, and that says alot.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:46 pm to Bubba Hotep
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His only big recruits were local kids.
except for Trevor Releford.
Other than that period where he has been shooting well, he has surprisingly been underperforming as well.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:54 pm to TexasTiger08
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And Brad Stevens? Why the HELL would he leave Butler for LSU. Butler has passed Gonzaga in terms of cinderella becoming a star.
Good point TT08. I think we as LSU fans tend to think all these name coaches would come here if we offered.
One should take in to consideration should a hiring campaign be a necessity a year or two down the road (cause that's the earliest it will happen if so) that on these bigger name schools, coaches who are in demand probably have a list of schools they might leave for and LSU ain't on many of those lists.
We'd have to roll the dice a bit and get a young up and comer.
I wasn't unhappy with Trent's hire, and I don't think very many were at the time, but my two biggest issues were I wished we would have gone younger and he wasn't from this region and was unfamiliar which might hurt recruiting.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:57 pm to fightingtigers98
Lester Earl for head coach
Posted on 1/29/12 at 1:58 pm to TexasTiger08
I haven't suggested Brad Stephens. He's a pipe dream. I haven't suggested anyone. I'm not sold on Shaka Smart, however.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 2:01 pm to Tiger Ugly
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One should take in to consideration should a hiring campaign be a necessity a year or two down the road (cause that's the earliest it will happen if so) that on these bigger name schools, coaches who are in demand probably have a list of schools they might leave for and LSU ain't on many of those lists.
Unless we are going to throw SEVERAL million at somebody, big names (to the average joe fan) are not possibilities IMO.
You are spot on about an up and comer. Realistically, we are looking at hiring somebody who has had success in a conference that is perceived as mid-major, like someone from the Missouri Valley, CAA, etc.
The 2 mid-majors that I think are above that status are Butler and Gonzaga. Stevens and Mark Few aren't on the move. If they were, they would have already made a move.
I like Amaker, but he has already flopped on the big scene, and I don't think we are a school that he needs to get a second chance at.
Personally, I like Shaka Smart. He is young, ambitious, energetic, and can definitely coach a team up. Are there other coaches I would rather have? Sure, Calipari comes to mind. But realistically, I think a guy LIKE Smart is who we go after if TJ fails to the end.
Posted on 1/29/12 at 2:17 pm to TexasTiger08
What about Leonard Hamilton? Or is LSU a lateral move/ step down from FSU? I know in the short term it is, but I wonder if he'd feel his program could be more relevant in a conference with 1 superpower as opposed to 2?
Posted on 1/29/12 at 2:18 pm to TexasTiger08
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Personally, I like Shaka Smart. He is young, ambitious, energetic, and can definitely coach a team up. Are there other coaches I would rather have? Sure, Calipari comes to mind. But realistically, I think a guy LIKE Smart is who we go after if TJ fails to the end.
On Shaka I'd need to see some a bit more plus, I think he's made a big enough name, deserved or not, that he'd be able to choose from a list that LSU would be way down on. And to get into a bidding war to get ourselves higher on that list would be a bit too risky IMHO given his limited experience.
This post was edited on 1/29/12 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/29/12 at 2:44 pm to ATLTiger
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What about Leonard Hamilton? Or is LSU a lateral move/ step down from FSU? I know in the short term it is, but I wonder if he'd feel his program could be more relevant in a conference with 1 superpower as opposed to 2?
He has Florida ties at this point...didn't he coach Miami? He has a competitive team in one of the best conferences in America. He is coming off of a Sweet 16 season, has multiple skins on the wall (this season alone FSU has beaten UNC and Duke at Cameron Indoor). No reason for him to leave. FSU is one of the better programs in the nation, albeit, they lack consistency. Still...solid team, fertile recruiting, no reason to leave.l
Posted on 1/29/12 at 2:45 pm to Burkett
IMO:
Shaq made so much money, he does not need the aggravation of recruiting and traveling with the team.
Amaker is at Harvard. They dont even offer any scholarships.
Try again. Those are not solutions.
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