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re: to those saying LSU will go 6-2 in conference

Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:10 am to
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:10 am to
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5 teams that are all likely replacing coaches?


that's a "them" problem
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:14 am to
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We aren't. We have been 3rd best in our division since 2012


This is false based on wins and losses. LSU is second only to Bama in the West in that time frame.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63640 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:14 am to
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that's a "them" problem


It's an us problem too, when fans like you are using them as a barometer for O's performance.
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:14 am to
5 sec road games and going 6-2 is better than 4 sec road games and going 6-2
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10346 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:16 am to
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Oemgee! You want FACTS! I mean, they're not difficult to discern. They're public knowledge. You just choose to ignore them.


still waiting .....


I do not give a damn what happened at Ole Miss,since you will likely bring it up to justify your hate, I care what I see know.

He had a rocky start and now seems to be going in the right direction.

I judge on the present.
He was not my 1st choice, but is my coach.. that's reality.
....none of us can change that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:16 am to
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still waiting .....


I answered you already.

Posted by Superbonics
Member since Oct 2015
493 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:18 am to
11th isn't good enough. Garbage. We can't "settle" for 11th.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:18 am to
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Keep repeating this, and one day it might be true. You got duped by shitty coaching in the first games of the year

Does that include Aranda? His defense got destroyed by Miss St and struggled against Syracuse and Troy.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:20 am to
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Does that include Aranda? His defense got destroyed by Miss St and struggled against Syracuse and Troy.


Sure, but Aranda had a year of solid coaching results to fall back on. But O is the boss last I check, so everything is ultimately on him, correct?

Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:20 am to
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I put "hate" in quotes, because I'm an adult, and I do not consider stating facts as hating.


You may stat facts. But I was talking about O-Haters. Which isn't always about facts.


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You know what, you're right




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However, I'm not a fatalist.


Neither am I. Nobody said we were dead in the water. The whole thread was about how possibility of finishing #2 in division for the first time in 5 years didn't mean anything and we shouldn't be happy. Well finishing 2nd in division (even in current state of division) is something to be proud of for our team that got shut out by Arky and Bilema a few years back and got dominated by Ole Miss.

Our last 5 years have been worse that this year. Even with a troy loss.

Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:22 am to
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represents an outstanding coaching job


I am wondering, just how far LSU expectations have dropped when 6-3, 4th in the west, 5th or 6th in the SEC, and not ranked in the top 20 is judged to be a demo of a "outstanding coaching job"?

I don't get it, but each to our own.

Posted by JAB528
The Mexican Ocean
Member since Jun 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:24 am to
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Florida IN Gainesville


Please, it took a missed extra point to beat a florida team that just got its shite pushed in by missouri. Lets not pretend like thats some epic win.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:24 am to
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We aren't. We have been 3rd best in our division since 2012


This is false based on wins and losses. LSU is second only to Bama in the West in that time frame.


Time frame record may make you feel better but this is reality for finishes since 2012.

3rd in '13
5th in '14
4th in '15
3rd in '16
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:25 am to
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Our last 5 years have been worse that this year. Even with a troy loss.
No. 2012 was better. 2013 will have a higher ranking than our finish this year, and in a much better SEC.
Posted by south bama tiger
Member since May 2008
6646 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:25 am to
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I am wondering, just how far LSU expectations have dropped when 6-3, 4th in the west, 5th or 6th in the SEC, and not ranked in the top 20 is judged to be a demo of a "outstanding coaching job"?

I don't get it, but each to our own.


That's actually the saddest part about this. Covering the spread against Alabama and maybe being ranked at the end of the year is all of a sudden considered a successful year. Go back a couple years and the expectation was the we contend for a conference championship..
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89128 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:25 am to
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Time frame record may make you feel better but this is reality for finishes since 2012.

3rd in '13
5th in '14
4th in '15
3rd in '16


And yet no team outside of Bama has done better. I know yall hate when facts get in the way of downplaying where the program was, but the numbers are what they are.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
11086 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:26 am to
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We aren't. We have been 3rd best in our division since 2012. Spears was right when he said it.

Your problem is that you still think of LSU like you did 10 years ago. We aren't far. but we aren't elite


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11th most winningest program of all time.
3 national titles.
14 conference titles.

yeah, just some run of the mill program.


None of which has to do with 2013-2017.

Your response has nothing to do with my post.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77894 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:26 am to
Go pout somewhere else.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16712 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:26 am to
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Sure, but Aranda had a year of solid coaching results to fall back on. But O is the boss last I check, so everything is ultimately on him, correct?

But why was Aranda's defense so bad? Did O come in and change the way Aranda coached?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40140 posts
Posted on 11/9/17 at 10:26 am to
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I do not give a damn what happened at Ole Miss

Well then your opinion is wholly invalid
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