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Posted on 7/24/08 at 10:13 am to MN Tigah
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many Tiger fans still believe that he should have started ahead of JR in 2006.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 10:27 am to AlaTiger
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Perriloux was not dismissed until AFTER Spring practice - AFTER Miles had seen Lee and Hatch. Do you think that after he had become confident in the QB situation for this season he felt like he could release the headache?
Maybe things are better than they seem?
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Posted on 7/24/08 at 10:31 am to DvlsAdvocat
Didn't RP F*ck up again and that's why he was removed? I don't think it was a confidence thing. Though, I do think that Les could have pulled the plug but chose not to before the SECCG, for right or wrong.
To answer the question, no, that isn't the reason I don't think haha
To answer the question, no, that isn't the reason I don't think haha
Posted on 7/24/08 at 10:40 am to Buckeye06
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pulled the plug but chose not to before the SECCG, for right or wrong.
he was cleared from any wrongdoing for that incident and that was over a month before the SECCG
Posted on 7/24/08 at 10:46 am to MN Tigah
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but Matt Flynn was a terrific quarterback! Yes, he made some mistakes against some very good teams, but he was a winner, he was clutch, and Matt Flynn was extremely accurate
guys who have sub-60% completion rates are not "extremely accurate"
Posted on 7/24/08 at 12:16 pm to SlowFlowPro
Ryan Perrioullx was a coke head...thats the real reason he got kicked off the team.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 12:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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guys who have sub-60% completion rates are not "extremely accurate"
Just a thought here.....How many passes did Lafell and others drop early in the year, bringing Flynn's completion % down?
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/24/08 at 1:48 pm to Geauxtiga
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I'm the king" attitude but they're going to "Tolerate" it cause they need him.
May the frick OFF be with Ryan P.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 1:53 pm to HoumaTigerFan
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Just a thought here.....How many passes did Lafell and others drop early in the year, bringing Flynn's completion % down?
every team drops balls
Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:09 pm to AlaTiger
Miles didn't kick Perriloux off the team to punish him.
Perriloux was dismissed to protect the team from his distructive behavior. When it became evident that he could not and would not lead the team by example, but others could, Perriloux became expendable. Miles made the correct decision at the correct time.
Perriloux was dismissed to protect the team from his distructive behavior. When it became evident that he could not and would not lead the team by example, but others could, Perriloux became expendable. Miles made the correct decision at the correct time.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:27 pm to Bad Cat
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Perriloux was dismissed to protect the team from his distructive behavior.
+1 to all that you said and most importantly the quote above.
RP would have lowered moral on the team as well as created an environment and attitude that star players can get away with anything they want and Miles would not do anything. Miles "showed" what he would do which is more important than what he said to the players. The words were insignificant compared to the example that there would be scholarship ending CONSEQENCES for breaking team rules. Then Miles gave an encore presentation by kicking Jarvis Jones off the team for those players that may have been confused by RP's dismissal.
RP's dismissal had nothing to do with confidence in Lee & Hatch. Miles may be a gambler, but the statistics from the history of college football scream that LSU will not do well with Lee or Hatch at QB this year. What the statistics point toward is 3-4 losses, not winning the SEC Champ. game or going to the NC. I'm not saying LSU has no chance. What I am saying is that the odds are vastly against us and the times where a RS Freshman or non-starter transfer has come in and won 10+ games are few in comparison to the vast majority of teams in this situation that have achieved sub par results viewed through the lense of a 10+ wins context.
The whole RP dismissal was in spite of the consequences of severely diminishing LSU chances of repeating as SEC champs and National champs. Not because LSU has a better chance with Hatch or Lee vs. RP. We can only guess that RP would have played at a level that he did last year, but the decline and destruction of team discipline would have destroyed LSU's chances to win it all somewhere down the line.
We can all speculate, but whether LSU kept RP or went with Hatch & Lee, our chances of winning it all again were bad and still less than 50/50 even if RP wasn't a frick up. Repeating a NC has only been done a handful of times and none in the last 10 years of the BCS. (I don't count USC's 2003 AP and 2004 BCS trophies as a repeat.)
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:49 pm to MN Tigah
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...and many Tiger fans still believe that he should have started ahead of JR in 2006.
Maybe they need to take their medication. That amounts to a suspension of reality and ignoring the facts, to come to that conclusion. There is no rational, definable basis for that position. Flynn = less td's, less completion %, less yards, less avg yards, more int's, better run game, better Oline, better O coordinator, same record, but lost to lesser ranked teams (Ky & Ark vs. Aub & Fla). The only argument for Flynn is the NC, which is the result of whole team effort and a lot of miracle like help.
Which team would you choose head to head, JR's or Flynn's? The only difference is Flynn's got in the NC game and JR's didn't. Not because of the QB's, but other outside influences (Ref-gate vs. WV loss, Kan loss).
Two coaching staffs, Flynn himself and his father agreed that JR was the right starter. Otherwise, do you believe Flynn would have stayed at LSU for five years if he was being passed over for a lesser QB, as the fans you mention would have us believe? Again a suspension of reality to support an untenable position.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 2:59 pm to Catahoula Lake LA
Catahoula, that's one of the most accurate, well thought out posts I've ever read on here...but one that will be disagreed with by many. The thought that a guy who hasn't taken a snap since high school can just waltz in and, simply because there is talent around him, win a NC is nearly delusional. Can it happen? Sure. Is it likely to happen. History says no. But, I know, I know, we have "The Wizard".
Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:05 pm to MN Tigah
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There were plenty of good reasons for starting him ahead of Perilloux last year, and many Tiger fans still believe that he should have started ahead of JR in 2006.
not this shite again
Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:10 pm to harper6464
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Mediocre quarterbacks don't have Championship rings on their fingers.
What a silly statement to make. Plenty of championship teams have been led by average quarterbacks. The main difference between Mauck and Flynn and whoever runs out there for LSU this year is that Mauck and Flynn were experienced guys used to being a part of LSU and playing on the big stage. Lee is a redshirt freshman and apparently the last experience Hatch saw was as a backup for the Harvard JV team.
Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:25 pm to geauxjo
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Catahoula, that's one of the most accurate, well thought out posts I've ever read on here...but one that will be disagreed with by many. The thought that a guy who hasn't taken a snap since high school can just waltz in and, simply because there is talent around him, win a NC is nearly delusional. Can it happen? Sure. Is it likely to happen. History says no. But, I know, I know, we have "The Wizard".
Thank you for the compliment...although we all wear purple and gold glasses at times, you, I, and those that have watched college football for 20-30 years know its history of inexperienced QBs.
Thanks agiain!
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 7/24/08 at 3:40 pm to Catahoula Lake LA
but you have to agree that no matter who our qb is this year we are def capable of winning some of those extremely tuff games this yr, which is what every great program does
Posted on 7/24/08 at 4:13 pm to dgnx6
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but you have to agree that no matter who our qb is this year we are def capable of winning some of those extremely tuff games this yr, which is what every great program does
The simple answer is yes. With a HUGE caveat!
I'm not aiming my remarks specifically at you personally, but more at the vast majority of fans on TD that in my opinion have on their P&G glasses.
My caveat to the above remark is this. None of us truly know what kind of QB we will have until the Auburn game.
The first three games are against cream puff opponents in Tiger Stadium. Appy State is the best, but the talent level of the other LSU players and depth of talent will win that game in the fourth quarter.
At Auburn we play "in Auburn"! Never under estimate this FACT! See the last 4 games LSU played in Jordon Hare if you doubt me.
There is no more important single position on the football field than QB. And, no other position that can kill your teams chances of winning more than the QB. If you don't agree, you don't know football or haven't watched enough games.
Defenses defintely win Championships, but QBs that make stupid decisions (turnovers) due to inexperience can undermine the best efforts of Championship Defenses by keeping them on the field too long or constantly putting them in poor field position (the red zone) with their backs against the endzone one too many times to pull out a win.
I'll reserve my opinion of the season and QB until after that game because we will know if we have a "player" at the QB position when the final whistle blows in Auburn, AL.
This post was edited on 7/24/08 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 7/24/08 at 4:27 pm to Catahoula Lake LA
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I'll reserve my opinion of the season and QB until after that game because we will know if we have a "player" at the QB position when the final whistle blows in Auburn, AL.
If whoever the QB is can go to Auburn, in his first road game (not exactly Harvard or high school) in an extremely difficult environment (especially if at night), against a projected top 10 defensive unit, and win the game, I'll be sold.
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