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re: Time to accept William “GOAT” Wade as the new face of LSU Athletics

Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:08 pm to
Posted by b rod lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4880 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

Hate to ask this right now, but are we even 100% sure Wade is safe from the shite storm that is brewing?


No one is 100% sure about anything in college sports, but none of the OLOL money went to basketball players and no basketball players have been accused of beating women. So they’re doing a pretty decent job of staying out of the current shite storm.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23322 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 6:40 pm to
Why are Wade's fans so idiotic? You really think he is the "greatest of all time"? Even at LSU, there are coaches with national championships.

I suspect if you asked Wade if he was the GOAT, he would look at you like you were an idiot.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10470 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:11 pm to
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I know I'm going to regret asking this; but what exactly is your issue with Wade? And I mean besides the hypocritical, pearl clutching, moronic issue with the recruiting scandal stuff.

I mean they are extremely stupid and biased reasons; but we have at least heard why the troll, chinhoyang, doesn't like him; but I've never heard your deal. All you do is just simply pop up in every basketball thread to shite on him and then run away.

I don't know if the "TN" in your screen name represents Tennessee; but if it does, maybe your issue is that you knew Wade back when growing up in the Volunteer state and Wade jacked your girl or stole your lunch money or something. So let's hear it.
At the risk of appearing pedantic, I subscribe to the principle of Occam's Razor to explain where the sudden recruiting success came from i.e. that he cheated to get those players. Don't know if he was careless due to naiveté or if he's just dodgy person in general. Probably a combination of both. I very much equate CWW's sudden recruiting success to the out of the blue recruiting success that Hugh Freeze had at Ole Miss. Both coach's recruiting results were simply too exceptional to believe without their resorting to practices beyond the normal level of cheating that goes on at Power 5 football and basketball programs.

I also believe he's overrated as a coach. For starters, coaches can win with superior talent even it it's talent that he obtained in an unscrupulous manner. That explains itself. From a coaching standpoint, his team's don't play perimeter defense - as it's often stated that many opposing teams have career 3-point shooting festivals against LSU. I can't imagine his inability to recognize that, so why hasn't he done anything about it? Other things being equal, a hot 3-point shooting team will get you beat way more often than it should. It's a matter of instilling the discipline and desire of a team to play defense. Great coaches can do that.

I do live in TN, but I'm not a native and don't even particularly like it here. I'm here because my wife needs to be here for now. TNT fits one side of my personality.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19264 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:24 pm to
I agree that Wade won't be the HC next year. People forget that the NCAA's charges do not require legal proof. This is not a legal matter that will be heard in any court. The NCAA is a volunteer organization in which its members agree to follow the rules & regulations of the organization. That's why there are no depositions or subpoenas. There is an infractions committee which processes most disputed issues. In this case, LSU has agreed to a binding arbitration hearing, again, outside of any courtroom setting. No appeals. Way too much smoke out there & does anyone believe that the NCAA would risk all its marbles on one claim against Smart?
Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
5976 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Respect tPear or get out the orchard


I legit LOLd at that. Y'all frickin kill me.
Posted by Gcockboi
Rock Hill
Member since Oct 2012
7689 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:42 pm to
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And if Wade had inherited a top 5-10 program like Orgeron did or the #1 program in the sport like CPM he’d have a championship level team or 2 by now


Wade will never sniff a national championship because of his defensive philosophy. His teams do a horrible job of guarding the 3 point line and this has dated back to his VCU days.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29357 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 8:50 pm to
Do us all a solid and continue sucking every dick on earth .k pumpkin
Posted by fwr20
Member since Nov 2020
66 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:15 pm to
Hopefully. I like what he's doing with the program. We are finally getting players to consistently compete. Not just every few years.
Posted by TigerLaw40
Member since Aug 2017
2788 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:23 pm to
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People forget that the NCAA's charges do not require legal proof.

People haven’t forgotten anything. In fact, I’ve never read anyone use the phrases “beyond a preponderance of the evidence” or “beyond a reasonable doubt” or “clear and convincing evidence.” But I’m sure you probably weren’t even aware of the typical legal standards. Hell, I’ve never even read anyone say, “burden of proof”.

But what you and others like you fail to acknowledge or understand is that while the NCAA may not have to meet a typical legal standard for a case; they can’t just make shite up either or punish a school when there is no proof beyond innuendo and conjecture. There has to be something of substance. And right now, as far as any of us in the public know, the only piece of substance they have is Wade on a phone call implying that he may have paid a player or offered/given an improper benefit; but that’s it. If there were more that they discovered or know then they never would’ve even sent the case to the IARP. They would’ve given the NOA right away and told all the CBB world what they found. Have they done that? NO. Have your heard or seen anything else? NO.

And by the way, the IARP is INDEPENDENT of the NCAA, that’s what the “I” stands for. Therefore this case isn’t going to be reviewed and decided like typical NCAA infractions cases. And LSU didn’t ask for the case to be sent to the IARP, the NCAA referred it b/c they knew they didn’t have anything. And the IARP is largely made up of attorneys; so if you think that an attorney is going to look at a case from any other perspective than a legal analysis, which would impart some type of legal standard, regardless if they are supposed to or not, then you don’t know attorneys.

So you’re telling me as a supposed LSU fan, you’re okay with the NCAA just coming in and laying the hammer down just b/c you and they assume Wade did something against the rules without any substantive proof of that? If so, then I pray your family never gets in any type of trouble based on a maybe or probably rather than a certainty as you obviously just roll over at the snap of a finger. Oh, and for the sake of the rest of us, find a new team/school to pull for.
Posted by BobBarker
Bompton
Member since Nov 2012
11657 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:26 pm to
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Wade will never sniff a national championship because of his defensive philosophy. His teams do a horrible job of guarding the 3 point line and this has dated back to his VCU days.


I know you’re just here to troll, but Wade had the 47th and 63rd ranked scoring defenses in the country his two years as VCU’s head coach. The year before going to VCU, he had the 71st ranked scoring defense at Chattanooga. The defense at LSU has definitely been lackluster, but to say he had these issues before is demonstrably false.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47645 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 9:26 pm to
Lmao you use pussy wording so that you can distance yourself from such a prophetic statement. What a coward you are, you’re also ignorant.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19264 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:21 pm to
Nah, I'll remain a fan of LSU sports. As for your shots at me, I'm just at the age where I am skeptical of how clean college sports is & am way past using the "everybody does it" excuse". As for rolling over in life...... Again I am just skeptical when attys get involved in any process, & certainly do not look upon them as guardians of what is right in the world. 25 yrs in risk mgt opened my eyes to what goes on in the legal world : "from any other perspective than a legal analysis"? Yea, attys are never influenced by politics.
Posted by Flynn2Byrd
Mile High City
Member since Feb 2020
584 posts
Posted on 12/10/20 at 10:35 pm to
So frickin in baw
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