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re: Those of you "fans" who are so anti-everything LSU football need a reality check
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:13 am to LSUGrad9295
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:13 am to LSUGrad9295
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Those of you "fans" who are so anti-everything LSU football need a reality check
I think wanting a better coach is not being anti-LSU, but the opposite. It's pro-LSU.
The fans who want to keep a coach around because he's a nice guy are anti-LSU.
There's a difference in being anti-Miles and being anti-LSU. Those of you treating Miles as though he is LSU are going to be the reason this program because what Texas is today.
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:13 am to moneyg
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Over the last couple of weeks, I've noticed you. That's usually not good. You aren't much of a thinker from what I can tell.
Agreed.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:14 am to AlxTgr
quote:The pitch is the only play LSU runs.
They see only what's convenient to their narrative. Like "Power I"
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:14 am to BeeFense5
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Auburn
looked great in the first half
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:17 am to cas4t
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The fans who want to keep a coach around because he's a nice guy are anti-LSU.
Who wants to only keep him around because he's a nice guy?
Are you under some illusion that people that are ok with Les staying only think its because hes a "nice guy"?
That is one of the reasons why you see extreme blow back from some people on this board.
I'm also enjoying this narrative that the only people that care about LSU are the Miles haters.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:21 am to cas4t
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I think wanting a better coach is not being anti-LSU, but the opposite. It's pro-LSU.
The fans who want to keep a coach around because he's a nice guy are anti-LSU.
There's a difference in being anti-Miles and being anti-LSU. Those of you treating Miles as though he is LSU are going to be the reason this program because what Texas is today.
I thought you were better than this to overgeneralize so much.
I wanted Miles to stay at the conclusion of this year, not because he is a nice guy, but because I didn't want to be locked in on a new coach that we gave the job to in a scramble because we were only focusing on wanting Miles gone, not who we were replacing him with. In that sense, I thought at this juncture, Miles was our best option. I don't think I am alone here, and I don't think the people that share my perspective are willing to say let him coach until he feels ready to retire.
ETA: I don't claim to know anything about what transpired behind closed doors, but I think it is fair to say that one of the primary reasons Les was retained is that we didn't have anyone lined up to take the spot that the fans would have been ok with.
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 11:25 am
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:22 am to cas4t
quote:There isn't a single person on the face of the earth who wants to keep Les Miles at LSU on account of his being a nice guy. You people are so desperate to justify your meltdown that you're lying about people who are happier than you.
The fans who want to keep a coach around because he's a nice guy are anti-LSU.
Geaux Tigers.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:26 am to TigerGman
"Ughhh. I've been on the LSU bandwagon since '92."
"I've been off the LEs Miles bandwagon since 2012."
Really? You sound like you are in some kind of 12-step recovery class, man.
It's going to be alright.
"I've been off the LEs Miles bandwagon since 2012."
Really? You sound like you are in some kind of 12-step recovery class, man.
It's going to be alright.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:46 am to Errerrerrwere
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It's going to be alright.
Based on what? The last 4 years?
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:47 am to ballscaster
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There isn't a single person on the face of the earth who wants to keep Les Miles at LSU on account of his being a nice guy. You people are so desperate to justify your meltdown that you're lying about people who are happier than you.
Two weeks ago, the whole board including the self professed super fans wanted him gone.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 11:53 am to dgnx6
Ratings did go down for Texas A&M game. In fact, there was no ratings. I posted a link above, but I will sum it up for you:
9/5/15 - McNeese - cancelled
9/12/15 - MS State - Rating 2.0 3.121M viewers
9/19/15 - Auburns - Rating 2.6 4.228M viewers (went up)
9/26/15 - Syracuse - Rating 2.1 3.204M viewers (went down)
10/3/15 - E. Michigan - Not listed (assuming went down)
10/10/15 - S. Carolina - No Rating 2.600M viewers (went down)
10/17/15 - Florida - 3.9 Rating 5.86M viewers (went up, and highest rated at that point)
10/24/15 - W. KY - No Rating 1.247M viewers (went down)
11/7/15 - Alabama - 6.4 Rating (highest) 11.063M viewers (considerably up)
11/14/15 - Arkansas - 2.2 Rating 3.638M viewers (went down but par for Syracuse and Auburn games)
11/21/15 - Ole Miss - 2.0 Rating 3.163M viewers (par with Arkansas)
11/28/15 - Texas A&M - not listed (so assuming it went down)
You asked me to look at ratings. I did. I stand by my statement that the ratings went down, and they have since the Alabama game.
LINK
9/5/15 - McNeese - cancelled
9/12/15 - MS State - Rating 2.0 3.121M viewers
9/19/15 - Auburns - Rating 2.6 4.228M viewers (went up)
9/26/15 - Syracuse - Rating 2.1 3.204M viewers (went down)
10/3/15 - E. Michigan - Not listed (assuming went down)
10/10/15 - S. Carolina - No Rating 2.600M viewers (went down)
10/17/15 - Florida - 3.9 Rating 5.86M viewers (went up, and highest rated at that point)
10/24/15 - W. KY - No Rating 1.247M viewers (went down)
11/7/15 - Alabama - 6.4 Rating (highest) 11.063M viewers (considerably up)
11/14/15 - Arkansas - 2.2 Rating 3.638M viewers (went down but par for Syracuse and Auburn games)
11/21/15 - Ole Miss - 2.0 Rating 3.163M viewers (par with Arkansas)
11/28/15 - Texas A&M - not listed (so assuming it went down)
You asked me to look at ratings. I did. I stand by my statement that the ratings went down, and they have since the Alabama game.
LINK
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 11:58 am
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:24 pm to OceanMan
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This is what I don't understand, at all. So your are saying that ROI is always positive in terms of coaches salary...because they will have guaranteed success? What if he doesn't have success? What if you are paying 2 coaches at the same time? I hope you are not saying that the coaches salary exp is insignificant compared to rev?
Maybe he won't have success and maybe he will, who knows. You have to take the chance to bring in someone who can turn this program around and start bringing in more money. Jimbo is a better candidate to do that than Miles.When the LSU athletic dept can give back 4-6 million a year to the university then I would say the football coaches salaries are miniscule compared to the overall revenue being generated which most comes from football. The reason Alexander didn't want to make the move had 100% nothing to do with money not being available. You and me both know that so stop saying otherwise.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:41 pm to Topwater Trout
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until we started playing teams with talent
...another black and white thinker.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:44 pm to TigerGman
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I think you're FOS and ignore obvious downward trend the last 4 years and you, with absolutely no justification at all, just assume and hope we're suddenly going to turn things around.
I didn't assume that. In fact, I did the exact opposite. You literally can't comprehend what you read. That's probably why you are perpetually confused.
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You're the dreamer not the thinker. You're just a typical NextYearU guy you just try to dress it up a little more than usual.
nah. I know exactly what we are.
And, despite some shortcomings, LSU can compete at the highest level as is.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:56 pm to Waterboy1972
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You asked me to look at ratings. I did. I stand by my statement that the ratings went down, and they have since the Alabama game.
would you not expect them to? It is in CBS' prime spot for the entire season, so one would expect them most viewers. The numbers toward the end of the year looked pretty close to the beginning +/- 5-10%. I'm not even sure what point you are arguing so feel free to ignore my comment, but I'm not seeing anything too significant.
Also, 2.9M viewers for aTm game. Prob not rated because there was some serious competition in that time slot.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 12:57 pm to moneyg
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despite some shortcomings, LSU can compete at the highest level as is.
SOME shortcomings?
And you base this on what, the last 4 years? You assume there's hope for turn around when this season was worse than ever as far as getting mud stomped by the SEC West.
In light of this there's no rational basis for your assumption that LSU can still compete at the highest level as long as Miles is the here. If anything the record clearly shows that's very unlikely to happen --Sunshine pumpers like you simply refuse to see the handwriting on the wall. And live in a perpetual fantasy world called "next year".
This post was edited on 12/7/15 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 12/7/15 at 1:04 pm to ballscaster
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You pay him $0.
Stuck on stupid.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 1:10 pm to Howyouluhdat
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The reason Alexander didn't want to make the move had 100% nothing to do with money not being available. You and me both know that so stop saying otherwise.
I don't know that, but that is what he said so I think it has more credibility than the contrary.
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When the LSU athletic dept can give back 4-6 million a year to the university then I would say the football coaches salaries are miniscule compared to the overall revenue being generated which most comes from football.
So ets just say the University is relying on this cash. Hiring a new coach would cut directly into it, and that is a fact. I don't want to argue on this with you, as neither has all the facts, but you are treating millions of dollars as if they are pennies because you aren't signing any checks or making any sort of appropriations. That amount of money is very real, and is already budgeted.
Like I said, I don't have the facts, so your opinion is as valid as mine. But I have spent time doing financial consulting for universities, and losing a few million from the budget a year because a coach got fired would be felt all over said univ. Otherwise, what business is it of the school's president to get into what is happening in the athletic department? To say that finances (or perception of how the university utilizes finances) didn't have something to do with how things went down is pretty naive.
Posted on 12/7/15 at 1:12 pm to zsav77
Don't waste your time with "ballcaster". He's just another fan of a program that wishes they had a football program like LSU does, and seeks out to fit in by posting what he DOES NOT KNOW about LSU football.
Be a fan of the program for 40 years and sit through the good and the bad and then maybe you can post your comments and piss people off when they post a reply because you don't like it! Otherwise leave! For good!
Be a fan of the program for 40 years and sit through the good and the bad and then maybe you can post your comments and piss people off when they post a reply because you don't like it! Otherwise leave! For good!
Posted on 12/7/15 at 1:14 pm to winnoworelse
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Don't waste your time with "ballcaster". He's just another fan of a program that wishes they had a football program like LSU does, and seeks out to fit in by posting what he DOES NOT KNOW about LSU football.
Dude, you can pick whatever team you want as your favorite, at any time. You sound ridiculous.
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