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This years CWS meltdown is on the players, not CPM.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:03 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:03 am
You can have differing opinions on bunt vs swing away, stolen base attempts, etc. This is all agruable and ok.
However, the head coach can not step to the plate and take the AB for the players. They are the ones that choked (repeatedly). There is no one to blame but the players themselves imo. All of our big-time all-world hitters choked at just the wrong time of year. And yes they absolutely choked.
My personal opinion is the team peaked a little early (which you cant prevent) then had a natural lull and then couldnt quite get back the dominance and confidence they had early in the year.
However, the head coach can not step to the plate and take the AB for the players. They are the ones that choked (repeatedly). There is no one to blame but the players themselves imo. All of our big-time all-world hitters choked at just the wrong time of year. And yes they absolutely choked.
My personal opinion is the team peaked a little early (which you cant prevent) then had a natural lull and then couldnt quite get back the dominance and confidence they had early in the year.
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Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:07 am to The Mick
If you had told me Bregman, Ibarra, and Rhymes were gonna hit like that in the CWS I would have punched you in the mouth for being so stupid. Not really but you get my point.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:07 am to The Mick
What's the thing where UNC would turn the bat horizontal and let the ball hit it??? It would roll slowly on the ground and the guy at first would advance to second???
It was weird!!!
It was weird!!!
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:07 am to The Mick
This pretty much sums it up IMO. No way in hell we can win with the way that those 3 hit. We are playing the best of the best and need our best to be at their best 
You get the point 
You get the point This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 8:09 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:07 am to The Mick
Unfortunately sir you are correct.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:09 am to The Mick
I was hoping the offensive outburst in the second game against OU would boost their confidence and carry over after they short of mushed their way through the regional.
But I just think they played so tight. With the exception of Katz, Nola, Laird, and Cotton, most of the guys looked tentative. I understand there are other inexperienced teams there, but LSU just played two CWS veteran teams, and it showed.
UCLA and UNC never looked uncomfortable or under pressure, and LSU looked just the opposite.
But I just think they played so tight. With the exception of Katz, Nola, Laird, and Cotton, most of the guys looked tentative. I understand there are other inexperienced teams there, but LSU just played two CWS veteran teams, and it showed.
UCLA and UNC never looked uncomfortable or under pressure, and LSU looked just the opposite.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:10 am to The Mick
It was primarily on the shoulders of the players. But if you've got men on with no outs or one out and a guy with no hits in the tournament steps up (Raph), you bunt him I don't care how well he has done in the past.
That was a huge coaching gaffe and it cost us at least two runs yesterday.
That was a huge coaching gaffe and it cost us at least two runs yesterday.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 8:12 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:12 am to TheDoc
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What's the thing where UNC would turn the bat horizontal and let the ball hit it??? It would roll slowly on the ground and the guy at first would advance to second???
It was weird!!!
So the problem was getting runners in scoring position right? It wasn't leaving those 20 guys on base. It couldnt have been that. Yea we should have just bunted with the bases loaded.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:13 am to The Mick
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:14 am to Ice Cold
quote:Me too, I thought that would carry over. We really needed a breakout offensively and that was it...
I was hoping the offensive outburst in the second game against OU would boost their confidence and carry over after they short of mushed their way through the regional.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:16 am to Guava Jelly
quote:I agree with you. CPM has some blame for sure but I still think they batting was far worse than the coaching. Combine the two and you're fricked.
It was primarily on the shoulders of the players. But if you've got men on with no outs or one out and a guy with no hits in the tournament steps up (Raph), you bunt him I don't care how well he has done in the past.
That was a huge coaching gaffe and it cost us at least two runs yesterday.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:16 am to dnm3305
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with the bases loaded
A well placed bunt down the 1st base side with runners moving on contact gives them a better shot than a pop up to shallow right.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:17 am to Ice Cold
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But I just think they played so tight
Agreed.
I really thought they were peaking again after blasting Oklahoma
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:18 am to dnm3305
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So the problem was getting runners in scoring position right? It wasn't leaving those 20 guys on base. It couldnt have been that. Yea we should have just bunted with the bases loaded
No bunting, no stealing.. That is how to wins games in that park now.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:19 am to Guava Jelly
How do you peak too early, when the last game they played before the CWS was winning the sec tourn? If anything, they were peaking at the right time. They choked, plain and simple.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:21 am to The Mick
Right ON! Maybe a few coaching decisions who knows but same thing as last year. Stopped hitting!. Raph 0-9. Breg 0-8. Ibarra 0-22.
Bottom line. Call 911 someone is choking!
Upset yes, but I enjoyed this group like no other. We live on and keep supporting the guys. Thanks for the season.
Go State?
Bottom line. Call 911 someone is choking!
Upset yes, but I enjoyed this group like no other. We live on and keep supporting the guys. Thanks for the season.
Go State?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:23 am to Tigerwagon
quote:Not for me, frick em.
Go State?
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:24 am to TheDoc
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No bunting, no stealing.. That is how to wins games in that park now.
I dont give a frick what park you play in, driving the ball with runners on is how you win games. I dont see Miss St bunting the shite out of the ball, do you? No, they had the exact same situation against Indiana the other night. Down by one run in the 8th, runner on 1st, no outs, 2-0 count with one of their best hitters...line drive to right field to put runners on corners with no outs. That's how you win. Hitting the damn ball.
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:24 am to The Mick
I somewhat agree and, also, somewhat disagree. Twice in the game yesterday Katz walked on 4 straight pitches and twice Rhymes followed that up by swing a the first pitch. Is there not a take signal? Does our coach not know how or when to use it.
Hitting in baseball is a much about philosophy and discipline as it is about technique. If one looks at an honest critique of the '09 team, more particularly, Jarrett Mitchell...he struggled a great deal early in the year by not showing plate discipline. Towards the end of the year and even in the CWS he started to get it and showed much more discipline and became a much better hitter.
At some particular point in time one would have to see a trend in the undisciplined approach CPM teams have consistently had at the plate and that, folks, is coaching.
Hitting in baseball is a much about philosophy and discipline as it is about technique. If one looks at an honest critique of the '09 team, more particularly, Jarrett Mitchell...he struggled a great deal early in the year by not showing plate discipline. Towards the end of the year and even in the CWS he started to get it and showed much more discipline and became a much better hitter.
At some particular point in time one would have to see a trend in the undisciplined approach CPM teams have consistently had at the plate and that, folks, is coaching.
This post was edited on 6/19/13 at 8:25 am
Posted on 6/19/13 at 8:24 am to TheDoc
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What's the thing where UNC would turn the bat horizontal and let the ball hit it??? It would roll slowly on the ground and the guy at first would advance to second???
How stupid. Their runs in the first came on a single and a bomb.
What would bunting have changed yesterday? Please enlighten me. LSU had PLENTY of men on second base. They didn't get a timely hit. Bunting would have changed absolutely nothing for LSU yesterday.
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