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This year is a one-off

Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:30 am
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:30 am
We can debate coaching hires, game day coaching, and other issues surrounding the outcome of games this year. Here's something you can't debate...we were not going to win a championship this year...PERIOD!

Don't come with "but Clemson...but Bama...But OSU" as an argument. No team in history has ever lost that many impact players in one off-season. If you are already hollering to put O back on the hot seat, you aren't thinking with your brain. Your just spoiled from having witnessed the greatest season in history that was turned in by your team and IT FELT GREAT!

I believe both of the major coaching hires are TBD in terms of impact on program. I believe CEO will cut bait if they prove they can't get it done.

We will have a transfer QB next year and replenished talent pool depth that will put us back in the hunt. Don't crap on the program because of what is going to happen this season. We will go through the "perfect storm' and we need to suck it up as fans and see how we evolve.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:33 am to
Agreed, as much as the stars aligned for us last year, everything aligned just as much this year but against us. This was always going to be a tough year for us. And the covid stuff really effed us with so many key guys opting out. The coaches can do or not do whatever, at the end of the day you have to have the players, and this team is depleted as frick. We will be ok, but it will be non stop whining from most of the spoiled, no football knowing bitches on this board.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:36 am to
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We will have a transfer QB next year


So we shouldn't judge the coaches after one game but you've already determined that Brennan will be replaced by an unknown transfer. Got it. Tons of consistency in you flawless argument.
Posted by LSUbase13
Mt. Pleasant, SC
Member since Mar 2008
15060 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:38 am to
Yep. If you're going to suck, have a subpar year, or rebuild, this is the year. I'm still not so sure the season will be completed.
Posted by atomic31
Member since Aug 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:38 am to
People say stuff like "The elite programs are able to reload every year", but they don't realize that LSU has only just started recruiting at this level. Give it one or two years, and LSU will be able to reload just as the "elite" programs do. A rebuilding year will soon be a thing of the past
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:38 am
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:39 am to
Players will have bad games.


It's up to coaches to make the necessary adjustments.


I saw no necessary adjustments.


This one is on coaching... a very well paid coaching staff.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50779 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:39 am to
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People say stuff like "The elite programs are able to reload every year"


There's only one elite school and they're the exception.
Posted by adambomb
Member since Dec 2014
1462 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:42 am to
MSU was disappointing but you’re correct. Our low rated 2018 recruiting class has either all left (Joe, Dam Lew, Chase) or failed to step up. This year was always going to be the worst under O. Next two years will be playoff caliber if Myles progresses
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:43 am to
I base my thoughts on Brennan based on the fact that he, in fact, has been in our program for 3 years. I hope I'm wrong but Burrow came because Brennan wasn't ready. It's a good story but unusual for a QB on a nationally acclaimed program to take 3 yrs to take the reigns. Again...hope i'm wrong and didn't write that to crap on him.

Why get so testy? I was expressing an amateur opinion.(like yours and 99% of all posters here). It always amuzes me at how personally people take things on here!

If Joe Burrow was forced to transfer to get on the field, it's at least reasonable to assume that Brennan isn't a "championship-level" QB.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:46 am
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15186 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:46 am to
It’s easier for teams like Ohio State and Clemson to reload whenever they are the only good teams in their conference.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9037 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:47 am to
The guys LSU lost are impact players even in NFL every week.
Posted by atomic31
Member since Aug 2018
1450 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:51 am to
My point is that we will soon be able to reload, we just haven't had enough elite recruiting classes in a row to do it yet. E.g. 2018 class
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2472 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:55 am to
Not only that but we are relying on the #15 class in the country (2018) for our "reloading" upper classmen, which most transfered or went pro, because basically every impact player from our 2017 class is gone already. Our #5 2019 class and #5 2020 class are all young with no older leaders left to help guide them in the right direction. Our 2020 class will most likely be #4-2 in the country. Next year we will reload, and should keep reloading after that with top 5 classes.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:55 am to
I totally agree but go back to an old sports cliché...It ain't about the X's and O's, it's about the Jimmys and Joes.

I think with Stingley in that game, there is there is a >50% chance we win. Even with the obviously terrible game planning/in-game adjustments, we still were a razor's edge from winning.

If our staff doesn't make marked strides going forward, I would expect CEO to be decisive and do whatever is necessary to get things rectified. He knows he won't get the "Miles treatment" and be afforded several years of mediocrity because he won't make changes when changes are needed.
Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:57 am to
Losers make excuses.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:00 am to
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Why get so testy?


It was just funny how you say give the coaches time and O will get it right. I completely agree with this sentiment btw. Anyone calling for O's head at this point is a mouth breather that can't separate immediate emotion from rational thought.

But how does Brennan not get the same benefit? He started is first game as a college QB with 8 other new starters and one of his returning starters is an average RT at his very best. Sure he looked shaky at times but he also made a few nice throws that showed flashes of his ability. He got in a decent rhythm midway through the second through the third quarter. I believe that the game will slow down for him with experience.

I also don't think that a QB taking over as a RSJR is abnormal. Before Hurts, Bama never had a QB start before they were at least a RSSO. Burrow didn't start until he was a RSJR and it seemed to work out for him. Mett didn't start until he was a junior and he was good. Flynn didn't start until he was a RSSR and he won a natty too.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:03 am to
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Losers make excuses.


And meatheads try to look at every situation in a vacuum without trying to discuss what led to our current situation. IDK you Roaring Tiger but most of the people bitching about O are the same people that were predicting a 6-6 in 2018 and swore O could never lead us to the promise land.
Posted by GarTiger
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2019
2293 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:07 am to
Very well stated and all valid points. Again...I'm not calling for a change at QB. I think Brennan should get this year to prove himself(or at least long enough for it to become obvious one way or another).

I look at the level of QB play that are winning natty's these days and I have serious questions as to whether Myles will ever get there. He may be more than serviceable but will he be great? We'll see.

I was on record hoping for D'Erik King to come here. He's no Burrow but does have a "game-changing" skill set. Having said that...I'm a Brennan fan for this year and sincerely hope he proves me wrong!
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
8967 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:08 am to
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Not only that but we are relying on the #15 class in the country (2018) for our "reloading" upper classmen, which most transfered or went pro, because basically every impact player from our 2017 class is gone already. Our #5 2019 class and #5 2020 class are all young with no older leaders left to help guide them in the right direction. Our 2020 class will most likely be #4-2 in the country. Next year we will reload, and should keep reloading after that with top 5 classes.


You make GREAT points but those who dislike O will tell you its his fault that the 2018 class sucked. They won't acknowledge that the fanbases' lack of support for O after the Troy game (and less so the ND bowl game) really affected his ability to recruit. No one is buying a ticket to a sinking ship.

Our fans need to realize that Miles had us moving in the direction Florida State post Jimbo. O came in and saved our roster from completely falling apart in the trenches.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14415 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 11:26 am to
When the season was shortened, players started opting out and the NCAA chose not to count 2020 against eligibility I said this season felt more like an exhibition than a real season.

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