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re: This is terrible. Now that it’s official O should be fired.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:18 am to LNCHBOX
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:18 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I'm not. He's a freak athlete, but losing him is not going to have a huge impact on team effectiveness going forward. He's not Kelce and we're not the Chiefs. In last year's offense, with all that talent, Moss had 500 yds and 4 TDs. That's damn good for a college TE but probably the ceiling for one at LSU, regardless of talent.
can we also not act like Gilbert was a typical tight end?
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Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:18 am to Tigerbait1977
I'm a fan of Coach O. I also realize that he has lost a LOT of talent to the draft.
With that being said, he has a job to do. This season has been so disappointing. Don't know if it's his divorce or some "strange" that he's getting, but this must change.
Bo Pelini hire was a mistake. Even with young talent, our D should not look THIS disorganized, undisciplined, and pitiful.
Ensminger needs to go too. 4th and 1 against Alabama in the red zone....and you RUN IT UP THE MIDDLE against the best front 7 in college football probably 8 years running?
It should be painfully obvious that Joe Brady was the brains behind last year's successful offense. I understand that Ensminger is Coach O's boy, but this relationship could cost O his job.
Why can't LSU "reload" every year like Alabama does? If you want to be the best in the SEC, this is necessary. You have to have studs behind studs today. If bama does it, why don't we? I'm not kissing bama's arse, just stating facts....I hate Bama almost as much as I love LSU.
Just my 2 pennies.
With that being said, he has a job to do. This season has been so disappointing. Don't know if it's his divorce or some "strange" that he's getting, but this must change.
Bo Pelini hire was a mistake. Even with young talent, our D should not look THIS disorganized, undisciplined, and pitiful.
Ensminger needs to go too. 4th and 1 against Alabama in the red zone....and you RUN IT UP THE MIDDLE against the best front 7 in college football probably 8 years running?
It should be painfully obvious that Joe Brady was the brains behind last year's successful offense. I understand that Ensminger is Coach O's boy, but this relationship could cost O his job.
Why can't LSU "reload" every year like Alabama does? If you want to be the best in the SEC, this is necessary. You have to have studs behind studs today. If bama does it, why don't we? I'm not kissing bama's arse, just stating facts....I hate Bama almost as much as I love LSU.
Just my 2 pennies.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:19 am to WildManGoose
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with all that talent, Moss had 500 yds and 4 TDs. That's damn good for a college TE but probably the ceiling for one at LSU, regardless of talent.
Moss is no where near the talent Gilbert is. You are way underselling what he could have done here. I get you're doing that just to lessen the blow by him leaving, but acknowledge what you're doing.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:33 am to LNCHBOX
quote:I don't think I'm underselling at all. Exactly what kind of stat lines did you envision for Gilbert at LSU? My point is that being the most talented TE doesn't mean much in college football, especially with the type of playcalling E has been doing. It's like lamenting the loss of the most talented full-back in LSU history.
You are way underselling what he could have done here
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:35 am to WildManGoose
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I don't think I'm underselling at all.
You are though. Gilbert would have been a monster with Burrow. Hell, he'd have likely eclipsed Moss's production with a healthy Brennan even in the COVID year.
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My point is that being the most talented TE doesn't mean much in college football, especially with the type of playcalling E has been doing. It's like lamenting the loss of the most talented full-back in LSU history.
I mean, if you want to minimize him, go right ahead. But all the top programs will be recruiting him and will use him.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:50 am to WildManGoose
First, you say this:
Then, you proceed to follow it up with this:
quote:
I don't think I'm underselling at all.
Then, you proceed to follow it up with this:
quote:Uhhhhh...
Exactly what kind of stat lines did you envision for Gilbert at LSU? My point is that being the most talented TE doesn't mean much in college football, especially with the type of playcalling E has been doing. It's like lamenting the loss of the most talented full-back in LSU history.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:54 am to WildManGoose
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I don't think I'm underselling at all
You're definitely underselling him.
A tight end who can do what he does can make all the difference in the world to an offense. Do you not realize how important Moss was last year? And Gilbert is way more talented than Moss. Those guys can block as well as additional offensive linemen, split wide and run routes like receivers, you can use them like pulling guards with the speed to get to the hole in time and the power to deliver an effective block, they can EFFECTIVELY chip defensive ends and still have the speed and athletic ability to get out in the route.
I think Gilbert will be an all american and NFL all pro. He's a stud and losing him is going to be a huge blow. Guys like him don't grow on trees, man. He was the national high school player of the year last year! When has a tight end ever gotten that recognition before?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:56 am to whitefoot
Y’all don’t get it. That kid smoked some bad synthetic marijuana and is all screwed up. Hospital type screwed up.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 11:58 am to Blast and Laugh
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Y’all don’t get it. That kid smoked some bad synthetic marijuana and is all screwed up. Hospital type screwed up.
How are we supposed to "get it" if this is the first anyone has suggested this.
And what don't I get? I'm saying the kid is a big loss on the field. I didn't make any comment on his character or his decision to opt out.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:27 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Yet, none of that changes the fact that he was recruited at TE in an Ensminger offensive scheme.
But all the top programs will be recruiting him and will use him.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:30 pm to WildManGoose
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Yet, none of that changes the fact that he was recruited at TE in an Ensminger offensive scheme.
Are you suggesting he was underutilized? After Marshall left, he was our leading receiver. He's something like 3rd amongst all tight ends in the SEC in receptions behind Pitts and the dude from A&M (forgetting his name). Ensminger loves using tight ends. Look at Foster Moreau in 2018.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 12:39 pm to The Pirate King
lol you actually believe that lie about his body hurting? So fricking naive.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:09 pm to whitefoot
quote:Moreau had 274 yds and 2 TDs in 2018. You have to make the distinction between Gilbert the athlete and Gilbert the LSU TE. Moss had 570 yds and 4 TDs in the season that Burrow set the SEC single season passing record and the FBS TD record. That should be your expected ceiling for LSU TEs, unless you expect to have 0 talent at WR or a QB that is always looking to dump.
Ensminger loves using tight ends. Look at Foster Moreau in 2018.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:12 pm to Blast and Laugh
Is he going to be okay eventually ?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:12 pm to WildManGoose
quote:
Yet, none of that changes the fact that he was recruited at TE in an "Ensminger" offensive scheme.
He didn't come here to do what E did in 2018. You are helpless.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:13 pm to The Pirate King
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O should be fired because he got a player the previous coach never could have, and the player decided to quit because his body hurt? Lol
Hmmm. How many years do we have to go back to find a previous coach that will have had the same win / loss record when we get skull dragged by Florida?
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:20 pm to Tigerbait1977
Arik quit. It is 100% on him.
He is 6th in the country for TE receptions.
He is tied for 2nd for the most receptions(all positions) for Freshmen.
He has more receptions than any player at GA. ANY PLAYER. So he might want to rethink heading there if that is on his mind.
He should be Freshman All American unless voters take quitting into account.
What else did O need to do?
I get being homesick and this year has made that even worse.
But, he has had a great Freshman season with back up freshman QB's leading the offense.
Arik made this decision and it is on him.
He is 6th in the country for TE receptions.
He is tied for 2nd for the most receptions(all positions) for Freshmen.
He has more receptions than any player at GA. ANY PLAYER. So he might want to rethink heading there if that is on his mind.
He should be Freshman All American unless voters take quitting into account.
What else did O need to do?
I get being homesick and this year has made that even worse.
But, he has had a great Freshman season with back up freshman QB's leading the offense.
Arik made this decision and it is on him.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:21 pm to deathvalleytiger10
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What else did O need to do?
Something is clearly wrong in the locker room. You have to have your head buried deep in the sand to not see it at this point.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:22 pm to SCREWDAT
quote:
Get a life an quit obsessing over what an 18 year old student athlete is doing
Shocker, people posting about college players... on a website based on college sports.
Shut the frick up stupid.
Posted on 12/9/20 at 1:25 pm to whitefoot
quote:
I didn't make any comment on his character or his decision to opt out.
You misspelled quit. Q U I T
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