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re: This is supposedly a penalty per SEC referees

Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:08 am to
Posted by Peepdip
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:08 am to
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just don't do it
yeah just don't hit the quarterback

Solid logic
This post was edited on 10/22/19 at 9:26 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:19 am to
If you really want to have a good time, go look at how many refs that aren't Bama alum, but have siblings that are, or in several cases, their parents are boosters at Bama.

Enjoy that rabbit hole.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:23 am to
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If only it didn't keep coming back, over, and over, and over, and over ...
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:42 am to
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If you really want to have a good time, go look at how many refs that aren't Bama alum, but have siblings that are, or in several cases, their parents are boosters at Bama.


Right.

I'm sure this isn't just an SEC thing. I'd assume that if you're a Big 12 fan there are feelings you have in regards to Texas for these same sorts of things.

The issue is that, for whatever reason, there really is something different about biases that surround college affiliations. Whether alumni or simply regional favorites...the pull is strong. We know this as fans ourselves. And, since the SEC admits this could be a problem by not allowing alumni to call games involving their own teams, why pretend that it only includes alumni, and not boosters or fans?

This is a different topic, but I think the only way to get away form this issue is to do away with regional conference affiliations and have an NCAA header that handles it all. Imagine an NFL style setup with current conferences forming NFL style divisions. No local control, no local officiating. Ensure that officials working game are from different parts of the country with no ties to the conference. It's not as if college football doesn't make enough money to pay officials to be full tie or to fly them in from all over the country. This would also address my issues with the stupid playoff system we have where eyeball test trump mathematics. But that's a topic for a different thread...

Hell...it's one thing to wonder why member SEC schools don't start clamoring for an investigation. Maybe it'll take someone from outside caring out fairness to programs not in the SEC who can get rolled by this system too. Maybe just some unaffiliated sports journalist or undercover group?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:45 am to
Nothing will happen because of the money being made for all of the schools.

The one thing I thought would at least spark a change is when they compromise player safety in order to assist the favored teams.

But, as you can see from this thread and others, player safety for teams outside the big 3 in the SEC means nothing.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:48 am to
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the big 3 in the SEC


Who dat?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
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Member since Sep 2003
36805 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 9:54 am to
The SEC doesn't even really pretend anymore. The "unsportsmanlike" call on UT was insane.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:09 am to
That 3rd Gif of JJ getting drilled is textbook targeting (but maybe before targeting became a thing). It should have been at least a 15 yard penalty. I believe that was also the PP7 non interception game.

Another example of the Bama bias is Devin White’s targeting call (against Miss St) and suspension last year. No way in hell that should have been call targeting much less and penalty. Now to be fair DW being out the first half did not really make a difference in the game. Can’t win if you can’t score.
Posted by Bandit30
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:15 am to
Post this on Sec rant
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55424 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:15 am to
Bama, Auburn and Florida are the Tier 1 SEC Football teams.

Bama will get favoritism over those two, but those two get more than enough help when needed.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:18 am to
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That 3rd Gif of JJ getting drilled is textbook targeting (but maybe before targeting became a thing)


Correct...before targeting was a thing. It was textbook spearing. In fact, in 2005 it became a bigger point of emphasis, and this hit was from 2009.

This was before targeting, though.

But yes...100% that was a penalty when it occurred.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:19 am to
And LSU doesn’t??????


I get the feeling that LSU fans want like 12 pens against Bama and zero against us with 5 pens against Bama that are true no calls and T least 5 pens not called on LSU that are obvious.....

Am I getting close?????
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:22 am to
The push up penalty was definitely ticky tac but the defender absolutely gave a little extra shove while getting up. If someone did that to Burrow everyone on here would be screaming for a penalty.

If you watch that play from a different angle the extra shove is more noticeable also. It was a chicken shite call but the shove was also unnecessary.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:29 am to
That pos ref was none other than the great bug eyed TOMMY RITTER.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:30 am to
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And LSU doesn’t??????


In comparison to BAMA historically?

No.

On a game by game head to head basis...sure, occasionally.

Look...a few years ago I went through the trouble of setting up a chart comparing LSU and BAMA penalties per game going from 2000 through I think 2012. It was an interesting chart, because unlike most times we could ac actually compare programs that were coached by the same guy.

And guess what? It made almost no effect. Nick Saban's coached LSU teams were flagged more often every year, by a lot, than were BAMA's teams...regardless of who the coach was at BAMA. Likewise, when Saban got to BAMA, his teams were suddenly flagged less than they had been when he was wearing P&G.

Year after year, coach after coach...same results.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109599 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:32 am to
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Bama, Auburn and Florida are the Tier 1 SEC Football teams.



I wouldn't put Florida there. They are about on par with LSU as far as how the SEC offices see teams/schools.

I would say Georgia gets more favorable bias than them.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216059 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:33 am to
Why are you guys already make up with the ref shite????? I’ve never seen a fan base almost already beaten three weeks before a game is played and it has nothing. To do with how good each team is....
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216059 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:39 am to
Please tell me what the refs did to us that caused us to lose these games

2012
2013
2014
2015
2017
2018

2016 I’ll give ya. They def had holding on tds run. The rest of those years I don’t see anything.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109599 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:42 am to
Why you asking me this?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19731 posts
Posted on 10/22/19 at 10:42 am to
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However, by allowing SEC alumni to be officials, they allow for alumni to call games that can directly EFFECT their alma mater. In other words...an LSU grad who's an official can call the Iron Bowl. This game does not involve LSU directly, but INDIRECTLY the outcome can very much help or harm LSU's chances. In my mind, that's a HUGE unaddressed issue.
then you'd never have any referee who lives in the south being able to call any game.

Of course SEC refs, for the most part, have some connection to big southern school(s). I assume most of them live in the region (being geographically close to the game is important because travel is a big deal for referees) so of course they'll have some connection, no matter how remote.

Time to let the "cheating refs" narrative go.

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