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re: This bowl matchup is about the worst case scenario
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:55 am to Choctaw
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:55 am to Choctaw
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this is the best way to beat an opponent...why the hell wouldn't you do it?
Oh look, someone else who either can't, or won't take the time to read the entirety of a post. I never said we shouldn't feed fournette the ball. We absolutely should. That doesn't change the fact that doing so and having success could dissuade Miles from thinking that the offense needs to change. We know that we can run the ball against vastly inferior defenses. We also know that we can't rely on the running game against the top 2-3 teams in the west. If something doesn't change, we will see similar results as this year. Playing Texas tech certainly does not help to convince miles that we need to change.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:56 am to UpToPar
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We also know that we can't rely on the running game against the top 2-3 teams in the west.
we can when our o-line decides to show up. we've done it before. y'all know Miles has been here 11 years right?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:57 am to Rex
" Our coach has made me cynical and bitter."
This is new news?
This is new news?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:00 am to UpToPar
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Then, when we faced teams with equal or better talent, we were not willing to adapt.
Is that really what you think happened?
Here is what I think happened. The strength of our team, due to injuries and the identification by opponents of a weakness at center, was lessened to a significant degree. When we tried to adapt, we weren't able to successfully do so due to poor pass protection and inconsistent QB play.
If I was coaching for LSU in this bowl game, I'd run the ball at Tech...A LOT.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:02 am to Choctaw
And what happens when our o-line isn't stacked with NFL talent? We just throw our hands up? You're just like Miles, no plan B. If we can't beat them in the trenches then we just can't beat them.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:02 am to schwartzy
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For whatever reason, Les likes to go air raid on teams with terrible run defenses. We hardly do what our opponent's weakness is (ex. We run up the gut on Bama but pass every first down against Texas A&M?)
LSU ran the ball 47 times with 21 passes.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:04 am to UpToPar
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Tech has one of the worst rush defenses in college football. Les gets to come out, run the ball 45 times, and dominate a much less talented team on the line of scrimmage. All this will do is assure him that his offensive strategy works.
Texas Tech has a potent enough passing game that this strategy may not work. A few quick strikes could have this game looking like Arkansas very quickly. If that happens, then the Tigers can't try and run the ball 45 times.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:05 am to UpToPar
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And what happens when our o-line isn't stacked with NFL talent? We just throw our hands up? You're just like Miles, no plan B. If we can't beat them in the trenches then we just can't beat them.
Why do you feel the need to build a straw man to argue against. Are you unable to make your point without it?
Most people, myself included, think LSU was too run heavy. Most, myself included, want a more balanced offensive attack.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:06 am to UpToPar
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And what happens when our o-line isn't stacked with NFL talent?
we have a grand total of 4 o-linemen in the NFL....try again
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:07 am to Choctaw
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if this is the best way to beat an opponent...why the hell wouldn't you do it?
You are either paid to pump Miles, or you fell out of the stupid tree, hitting every branch on the way down
Teams have this new thing called film. Their coaches watch it. A LoT. And as the season wears on, if all they see you do is run up the middle, then guess what they are going to do later in the season? Stop you from running up the middle. So essentially, continuing to use a strategy that at one point appears to be "the best way to beat an opponent" becomes the surefire way of getting your arse handed to you
ref: 1/9/12, '11 SECCG, last 5 Bama games, Arky under Beilema, Ole Miss under Freeze
Miles has no plan B, and its evident that the team doesnt practice a Plan B when the run game fails
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:11 am to RobbBobb
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So essentially, continuing to use a strategy that at one point appears to be "the best way to beat an opponent" becomes the surefire way of getting your arse handed to you
ummm....not when that opponent has one of the worst defenses in college football. running the ball against Tech doesn't "appear" to be the best way....it is the best way. pay attention
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ref: 1/9/12, '11 SECCG, last 5 Bama games, Arky under Beilema, Ole Miss under Freeze
all good defenses and has zero to do with our upcoming bowl game
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 10:12 am
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:16 am to RobbBobb
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Miles has no plan B, and its evident that the team doesnt practice a Plan B when the run game fails
This. You can't just say, we're going to throw the ball because running isn't working during the middle of the game. If you don't make a concerted effort to become a more balanced team all throughout the spring, summer and early fall, then when Bama shuts down the running game you are not going have success throwing the ball. It also shouldn't be an either or thing. We shouldn't decide to throw the ball because the running game is terrible, and we should decide to run the ball because the passing game sucks. We need to be balanced on offense, and that starts in the spring. My concern is that coming off of a bowl win where we rushed for 350 yards is going to assure the coaches that our current philosophy works and we will place less emphasis on becoming more balanced.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:17 am to Gray Tiger
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This bowl matchup is about the worst case scenario by Gray Tiger
So let me guess: you want LSU to abandon the run against a team with a crappy run defense and throw the ball all over the yard?
You want Miles to shelve the best running back in LSU history so you can see "offensive adjustments"?
You want LSU to throw a lot of passes but lose the game?
You want LSU to become the Saints?
I want LSUs coach to worry more about optimizing the program than about winning a fairly meaningless game.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:18 am to Choctaw
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ummm....not when that opponent has one of the worst defenses in college football. running the ball against Tech doesn't "appear" to be the best way....it is the best way. pay attention
You're arguing a point that I'm not even trying to make. No one thinks that we shouldn't come out and run the ball down techs throats. This game does us no favors going forward though.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:18 am to UpToPar
how many times did Harris throw against Arky and Ole Miss?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:22 am to Choctaw
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how many times did Harris throw against Arky and Ole Miss?
How many times did Harris throw the ball against rent-a-wins? (so he could establish a rhythm)
How many minutes did we have the lead vs. Arky or Ole Miss? (to allow Miles to run the clock)
Again, youre either just stupid, or PAID to pump Miles on here
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:25 am to RobbBobb
i'll just say this and leave. Miles changes according to his QB. If he has a good QB who he trusts than we throw more and are more balanced.
this is a fact thats backed up by stats.
unfortunately we haven't had very good QBs...but thats a different discussion
but by all means....continue with the dumbassery
this is a fact thats backed up by stats.
unfortunately we haven't had very good QBs...but thats a different discussion
but by all means....continue with the dumbassery
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:25 am to Gray Tiger
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You want Miles to shelve the best running back in LSU history so you can see "offensive adjustments"?
exactly, the OP makes not sense at all. I love this matchup because it's a game we can win.
But I would bet that we still throw the ball a good bit this game and continue to work on various aspects of the offense. It's a work in progress.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:25 am to RobbBobb
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Again, youre either just stupid, or PAID to pump Miles on here
Are you paid to incessantly trash the team?
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