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re: There is one defense that works 100% of the time in both CFP and Pro

Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:17 pm to
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last year


Posted by tigerdoc86
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Margin of Victory

Clemson +20
Georgia +6
Bama +9

LSU +35

Here is another fun fact for you:

Team who won their semifinal by the larger margin is 4-1 in the CFP Championship Game.

LSU +35
Clemson +6


How can anyone trust your numbers when you think 45-34 is a 9-point margin?

Bama was up 28-0 in the game and up by 18 in the 4th. OU scored garbage time points to make it an 11-point loss late in the 4th quarter.

Everyone feels good about themselves after they play OU in the CFP. They're like taking a valium before the root canal.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:20 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Bama was up 28-0 in the game and up by 18 in the 4th


but the LSU box score this year against Bama is not to be counted....right?
Posted by tigerdoc86
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:21 pm to
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but the LSU box score this year against Bama is not to be counted....right?



I've cited it multiple times. I think most Clemson fans love seeing that box score because it shows that LSU's defense isn't very good.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
7570 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:22 pm to
Another post with last year in it.

So since the past means so much, How the hell do you expect Clemson to win when they needed a failed 2 pt conversion to beat UNC, a basketball school?

Lowly UNC took you to the woodshed, stopped that juggernaut offense and easily could have won.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:23 pm
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:22 pm to
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was
Again, talking about the past

Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:24 pm to
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Ya'll gave up 38 to Texas


True. Forever ago, but true.

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crippled Tua




Tua wasn't badly injured for our game. He wasn't 100%. But a 90% Tua is good enough to beat most folks.

Let's put it this way, we faced a healthier Tua in 2019 than Clemson did.

Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Let's put it this way, we faced a healthier Tua in 2019 than Clemson did.


That, is a fact.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Every fanbase thinks there's will win after drumming Oklahoma in the semi finals


Wait a minute. You think LSU fans are confidant because LSU beat Oklahoma?

The LSU team knew before the game that OU would be about the 5th best team we would face all year.

Perhaps LSU fans are confidant because LSU is 6-0 vs Top 10 ranked teams this season. 2 of them on the road, and another 45 minutes away from the other team's campus with a 70-30 crowd split for the opponent.

LSU has played in the marquee game of the week 5 times this season, and has handled that pressure every single time. The national spotlight has been on this team since week 2 and LSU has not let it effect them yet. Don't think that because "LSU hasn't been here before" that LSU will crumble under the bright lights. 2003, 2007, and 2011 wasn't that long ago, so this program has been here recently. And the 2019 edition of the LSU Tigers has been in the big lights all season long.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162219 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:27 pm to
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Clemson has 2 sacks and 7 TFL against Bama last year.

Only 0.5 sacks and 3.5 TFL came from that starting front 4 last year.

Ya'll acting like CW, AB, and CF were blowing up Bama all game long. Dexter Lawrence didn't even play. None of the top 5 leading tacklers were on the DL. It was the back 7 that destroyed Bama

I have bad news for you. You need an elite front 4 to slow down LSU

Start blitzing and it's going to get ugly if you don't get home
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Wait a minute. You think LSU fans are confidant because LSU beat Oklahoma? The LSU team knew before the game that OU would be about the 5th best team we would face all year. Perhaps LSU fans are confidant because LSU is 6-0 vs Top 10 ranked teams this season. 2 of them on the road, and another 45 minutes away from the other team's campus with a 70-30 crowd split for the opponent. LSU has played in the marquee game of the week 5 times this season, and has handled that pressure every single time. The national spotlight has been on this team since week 2 and LSU has not let it effect them yet. Don't think that because "LSU hasn't been here before" that LSU will crumble under the bright lights. 2003, 2007, and 2011 wasn't that long ago, so this program has been here recently. And the 2019 edition of the LSU Tigers has been in the big lights all season long.


Shhh, let the mental midget have his moment. He will be sorely disappointed Monday night. I just wonder what excuses he will use then? TL's hair was too long, Etienne didn't brush his teeth?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:29 pm to
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Why else would he have Burrow throwing the ball when up 28 in the 4th quarter vs OU? lol

Can you please tell us what the result of all these throws are? Because I can''t find where Burrow threw a single pass in the 4th quarter against OU. Although I do see where Brennan was 3/3 for 39 yards in the 4th in the PB.

Thanks in advance.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:30 pm to
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I've cited it multiple times. I think most Clemson fans love seeing that box score because it shows that LSU's defense isn't very good.




Bama scored 14 points on a punt return and a trick play. So their normal offense scored 27 points against LSU.

OU had the #2 ranked offense in the country. For all the talk about OU being short some players, all of those guys were on defense. LSU shut them down until the game was out of hand. Even then, OU scored 28 points.

If Clemson only scores 28 points against LSU they lose by double digits.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89518 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:32 pm to
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LSU will need to score 50 to win this one.


That's not a thing.

We haven't given up 50 points in regulation since 2008.

Other than aTm (7 OT) in 2018, we've only given up 40+ I think 3 times since then.

Even this year when our defense is "awful" ( ) we only gave up more than 4 TDs 3 times, Texas, Vandy and Bama, and Vandy we won by 4 TDs.

We haven't trailed in a game since before Halloween.

Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:34 pm to
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This defense just held OSU to 1/2 their scoring average and lowest point total of the year.


Yeah...and that OSU offense gained ~252 yards more than what Clemson gives up on average, while their defense, admittedly better than LSU's, held Clemson's offense 121 yards below their average.

That's two games in a row that Clemson gave up more yards of offense than they've averaged all year. Meanwhile, LSU has held its last four opponents below their season averages.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:35 pm to
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Maybe in a 3-4, but in a 4-3 they always lead in TFL and Sacks.


TFL & sacks are not the same as tackles. Logic states that DL (as a group) will lead in TFL.

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Clemson's DL was top 3 on the team in TFL and sacks last year


your comment was the front 5 (DL) didn't lead the team in tackles...but go ahead and change the narrative



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Clemson didn't dominate because the DL was dominant.


If you don't think the front 7 is the key to a great defense you are retarded
Posted by glaucon
New Orleans, LA
Member since Aug 2008
5292 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:36 pm to
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OSU


Didn't they put up like 500 yards against yall and didn't blow yall out because of settling for FG's in the first half instead of TD's plus a couple uncharacteristic int's from Fields?
Posted by Todd O'Connor
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:37 pm to
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How can anyone trust your numbers when you think 45-34 is a 9-point margin?


Because you clearly did the math on all of the other ones. Otherwise you would have made a better point.

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Bama was up 28-0 in the game and up by 18 in the 4th. OU scored garbage time points to make it an 11-point loss late in the 4th quarter.



Alabama had to score their last two real posessions to hold OU off. Tua played the entire game. A TD to cut the game to 31-20 with over a quarter to play isn't exactly junk time.

LSU was up 49-14 at half, and out backup QB was in when we scored our last TD because they couldn't stop us.

LSU scored more points and gave up less than Alabama did last year.

LSU won by 2 more TDs than any of the teams you mentioned

LSU won by only 2 points less than all the teams you mentioned combined.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:51 pm
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20443 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:37 pm to
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Just to confirm: you expect the #1 scoring defense in the nation to hold LSU to 1 point below their season average and give up the most points since 2013 vs FSU.

Ya'll realize that a healthy Clemson defense is a bit different than a bad OU defense that is missing 2/3 of their starting secondary, right?

It's been a long time since I've seen a fanbase so confident in their offense after having their way with Oklahoma. Almost a full 12 months...
The reason why we're so confident is that this same exact thing has been said all season long. First, it was Florida. Then, Auburn. Then, Bama. Then, Georgia.

You silly sons of bitches think you're the first team to lay that on us this season? Granted, you do play in the shitty ACC so I guess it makes sense that you would think that. However, in the SEC we have faced stout defenses over a 13 game sample size. I'll give you OU. That was an outlier with their injuries and suspensions.
Posted by BillyBoy22
Mandeville
Member since Mar 2018
2193 posts
Posted on 1/8/20 at 12:40 pm to
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Clemson dominated OU in 2015 and lost. Georgia beat OU in 2017 and lost Bama dominated OU in 2018 and lost.


For some reason you just cannot comprehend or just refuse to acknowledge that none of those teams had the best offense in College Football History and none of those teams beat 6 top 10 teams that year.

Nobody has even come close to stopping this offense this year and Clemons certainly will not.



This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 12:46 pm
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