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re: There is a wide gap in the SEC QBs

Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:40 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:40 am to
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At the same time we can’t just ignore the truth or get caught up in recency bias, which runs rampant on n the Rant.


Its not.

Compare Etlings first year, Metts first year and Burrows first year.

Both Etling and Mett had played started before (Mett JUCO, Etling at Purdue) and had been at LSU a season prior to starting.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:40 am to
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Uhhhhh why did you exclude 2013 Mettenberger who was 5th in total QBR. Fraud.



Because the fricking premise is how good they were going into their senior years, not during or after. I mean, how do you morons remember to breathe?
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:41 am to
You referenced them both in the comparison. You’ve also ignored the statistics but that kindve thing seems to be the norm with you.
Posted by 1badboy
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:45 am to
I can't see some of u
praising Franks of Florida!
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:45 am to
I’ve don’t it twice, Etlimgs numbers are better. But that’s just it he split the comparison 3 different ways to avoid any fact that contradicted him. First he said “better” which is 100% subjective and opinion based then he wanted to use the stats to place Burrow over Mett then ran away from the stats so he wouldn’t have to acknowledge Etlings numbers.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:46 am to
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You’ve also ignored the statistics

Nope.

Look at the stats for each QB in their first season as starter. You can even adjust Etlings for the games he didn't start in 2016.

Burrows 3300 total yards and 23 total TDs were unsurpassed.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:46 am to
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This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 8:52 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:48 am to
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Etlimgs numbers are better.
Some, if you cherry pick.

Production wise, nope.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:50 am to
You don’t use total yardage to grade a QB cmon. If that were the case all the spread QBs would have an unfair advantage. You don’t penalize a player because of something totally beyond his control. That’s why anytime you read a page or magazine that has leaders in it the QB is rated by passer rating. And Etlings was higher in their first seasons, so was his completion percentage and yards per attempt. Pretty much everything having to do with efficiency Etling was better.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:51 am to
You don’t go by volume nobody does that. You won’t find a site or magazine that does.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:51 am to
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You don’t use total yardage to grade a QB cmon


Jesus Christ, you're already dead on this hill.

But its what you do.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:53 am to
Now you’re just being dishonest. Either you’ve never once in your life looked up SEC, national or NFL statistical leaders on a web site or in a magazine or you’re lying for the purpose of looking right in a thread.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:54 am to
Roger, come on man, you are better than this. You are arguing with a kid. Ain't worth it brother. Burrow is better. You know it, I know it, and a lot of others know it. That's all that matters. It will play out soon enough.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:00 am to
Leave it to AlterPin to say a college QB who finished in the bottom half of a historically weak SEC is better than 2 NFL QBs. Only on the Rant do you get people like this talking down to others lmfao.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 9:01 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:03 am to
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Now you’re just being dishonest.


No, you're just short sighted.

Are you differentiating between passer and QB? If so, start another thread.

Still, I will take Joes first season over Etlings any day.

Here's Danny's first year starting statistics

Big Ten FR QB 8 149 267 55.8 1690 6.3 5.9 10 7 116.1

His second, before he was benched.

SO QB 5 89 162 54.9 800 4.9 4.3 6 5 102.5

His third

SEC JR QB 11 160 269 59.5 2123 7.9 7.9 11 5 135.6

Danny had negative rushing yards those three years combined.

Burrows first year starting

SEC JR QB 13 219 379 57.8 2894 7.6 7.9 16 5 133.2

399 rushing yards

The only edge Etling had as a first year starter at LSU was a slight completion pctg and YPA. Burrow had better production.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 9:06 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299247 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:04 am to
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Burrow is better.


Absolutely no doubt.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:11 am to
Production don't matter man. Are you an idiot? Doesn't matter that both etling and mett had a significantly better supporting cast around them than burrow. Lol

This is comical in so many ways. This kid just wants to argue no matter what. Objectivity and common sense don't matter. Can't wait, burrow gonna go off with a good supporting cast around him.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:12 am to
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Joe could be a first rounder


I think the NFL questions his arm too much for him to go that high.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 10:39 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:12 am to
Lol now you’re comparing his seasons at Purdue to Burrows at LSU? You’re comparing a jr. to a freshman Wow
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70596 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:13 am to
Etling had 2 legit WRs Burrow had 6 lmfao. You really are clueless when it comes to football. That’s probly why all you do is attack people in threads.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 9:14 am
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